‘Stormy weather’: Biden skewers Trump at White House correspondents’ dinner (www.theguardian.com)

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[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 49 points 6 months ago

I wish Biden would step up pressure on Netanyahu, but I'm having trouble envisioning any president doing a better job with that particular horror show - and plenty who would do much, much worse.

The problem is that the U.S. can't just kick Israel to the curb. If we do, Iran's influence in the region grows, as does Russia's, and it's probably not going to take very long for Israel to face outright invasion.

At the same time, Bibi is a fucking monster, and the sooner he and his party are out of power, the better. He is trying to wipe Gazans out, which is not only horrific in its own right, it also feeds into Hamas propaganda and turns Israel's allies against it. I'm not sure he could have done a better job of strengthening Israel's enemies if he tried.

I honestly don't know what I would do in Biden's position, and I'm glad I'm not in it.

[-] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 23 points 6 months ago

To be sure, electing Trump would be the worst thing US citizens could do in regard to Gaza.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Thank you for the intelligent take, rather than just "Biden bad, not vote." So, so sick of saying it but Trump will be much worse for Palestinians and America in general...

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

FYI - Not everything has to do with Isreal

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

I know, but the link references the protesters outside the dinner, so I felt it was worth addressing.

[-] juicy@lemmy.today -3 points 6 months ago

So your argument for supporting a genocidal country is that it strengthens our global empire. At least your honest.

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Way to completely misunderstand me.

In any event, I don't support anyone's "global empire," and I didn't say I supported Israel's genocide in Gaza. I don't. I support these things:

The right of both the Palestinian and Israeli people to live free from violence. Never in my lifetime has that occurred, unfortunately, because their governments and terrorist organizations keep doing monstrous things to each other for stupid religious reasons.
Preventing Russia from dominating the region, because that would be a catastrophe for everyone.
The removal of Benjamin Netanyahu from power, followed by his imprisonment.
The return of all civilian hostages kidnapped by Hamas.
An immediate ceasefire in Gaza.
The prosecution of any IDF members who've committed war crimes.
The prosecution in Palestine (that's important) of Hamas terrorists.

This is a tall order, I know. But who do you think is more likely to make any progress towards it? The guy who's at least trying to pressure Netanyahu? Or the orange-skinned Russian asset?

[-] darharrison@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

How did you only read the second paragraph of that comment

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago

“Speaking of history, did you hear what Donald just said about a major civil war battle? ‘Gettysburg – wow!’ Trump’s speech was so embarrassing, the statute of Robert E Lee surrendered again.”

Heh heh heh. Yeah okay - approved.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

These roasts where journalists and politicians hob nob are so cringey.

[+] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca -32 points 6 months ago

The correspondents dinner is not as hopeful or bright as it used to be.

They're trying to prop up an old man to look young and treat him as the last hope against a decrepit opponent.

All while casually ignoring their responsibility to the world and encouraging one of the worst senseless and useless conflicts in living history.

The world isn't blind or ignorant. America can put on the biggest blinders they want but everyone will still see and understand America's part in all this.

[-] Limonene@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

The war in Gaza isn't the only thing going on in the world, you know. It's not even the deadliest war going on right now. Take a look at the list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anthropogenic_disasters_by_death_toll#Wars_and_armed_conflicts

The current era of the Israel-Palestine war (since October) has a death toll of around 30k. Look at how many other current and recent wars have death tolls of at least that much. Notably, the US-Afghanistan war (around 193k deaths) was ended by Biden.

[-] nonailsleft@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago

He also ended support for the genocides in Yemen, which had already claimed a whopping 380k lives under Obama and Trump

[-] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 6 months ago

To be sure, electing Trump would be the worst thing US citizens could do in regard to Gaza.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Hopeful or bright?

My good dude, the WHPCA dinner has always been a disaster. Whatever one-liners we get, or the occasional Colbert, we’ll take. But no one’s confused that it should exist - it shouldn’t.

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Why aren't people serious at the annual comedy show dinner?

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I blame Obama. After you make fun of Trump to his face, then go back to the White House to watch bin Laden get capped, you can't expect a better act.

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