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[-] OsaErisXero@kbin.run 271 points 6 months ago

Could you imagine if the thing that kills HOAs ended up being liability for the actions of their members?

Go Ralph go!

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 87 points 6 months ago
[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 52 points 6 months ago

Just make sure it isn't visible from the curb.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 38 points 6 months ago

That would be great, but police can barely take a person's guns away if they aren't actively involved in a crime. I'd be shocked if a court found an HOA to have that power. I'm not against it but I don't even think the Supreme Court of 12 years ago would do for it, much less this Supreme Court.

[-] bane_killgrind@kbin.social 57 points 6 months ago

It wouldn't be "no guns", it would be "carry this insurance if you have guns" and then fining the people who don't or won't carry the insurance.

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[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

I'd be shocked if a court found an HOA to have that power.

Courts have pretty consistently found that HOA’s have more power than local authorities. That’s why they can set their own laughably restrictive bylaws.

Second amendment violations may not fly, but that’s a constitutionality problem, not a limit specifically on HOAs.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 6 months ago

I hate HOA's, but some people like them. Regardless of how I feel about HOA's I still think it's dumb as hell that they should have any sort of liability for a member of an hoa doing something like this.

[-] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The percentage of people I know that like HOAs is absurdly small, including neighbors and acquaintances from the last HOA I was in. Almost everyone I know hates them but is forced to deal with them because almost every neighborhood has one. Towns require them for new zoning because it allows them to pass the buck on code enforcement and then a handful of people love them because it lets them power trip The vast majority are just stuck with them due to lack of options.

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[-] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 123 points 6 months ago

Good. Adults need to be responsible and held accountable for their actions.

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago

Shh. If there's one thing "responsible gun owners" can't stand, it's being held responsible.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 months ago

Gun enthusiasts here, does me wanting to "disarm" people for breaking gun safety rules count?

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 93 points 6 months ago

Because intruders always ring your doorbell before breaking in.

[-] JoeyJoeJoeJr@lemmy.ml 39 points 6 months ago

Not to justify the actions of the shooter, but ringing the doorbell before breaking in is definitely a thing. It's a means of checking if the house is occupied - if you're just trying to steal things, an unoccupied house is ideal, and if someone answers when you ring, it's easy enough to make up an excuse and walk away.

A much better solution than a gun, though, is a security door (similar to a screen door, but more kick proof).

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

ringing the doorbell before breaking in is definitely a thing

It’s only a thing because that’s predominantly what “normal” people do. There’s plausible deniability, and it still doesn’t change the fact that almost all people who knock on the door are not breaking in

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 74 points 6 months ago

I hope this 84 year old piece of shit doesn't die before this case concludes. Hard to believe it's already been more than a year since this happened.

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[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 72 points 6 months ago

I wouldn't be shocked if somehow the kid lands in jail

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago

Considering he's black and in America, he has a good chance of that anyway unfortunately, often for some low-level drug crime that would have gotten a white person at most community service.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 58 points 6 months ago

Suing the HOA is an interesting one; I wonder if the rest of the residents in that HOA could sue as well, I mean, having a known psychopathic firearms enthusiast in the neighborhood must decimate the property values.

[-] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 months ago

Maybe after the conviction they could have a bylaw like, "any owner housing a resident convicted of an armed assault will be fined $1,000 daily."

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 56 points 6 months ago

Anyways this is part of why I support a legal duty to retreat. If you can shoot anyone on your property some people will do shit like this

[-] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 38 points 6 months ago

Last I saw I thought he was also criminally charged since this was well outside the scope of castle doctrine or no duty to retreat. Both of them require a reasonable threat which was not present.

[-] JoMomma@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago
[-] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Make that bitch homeless. The only reason you should ever be homeless for, being a racist POS. Merica's 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

[-] Aermis@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

I do agree that racism is rampart, but so is homelessness. You can't think of a better punishment?

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[-] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 14 points 6 months ago

Go for it, milk that old shmegeggie 'till the teats fall off.

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