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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by MiraculousMM@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

We've seen an uptick in people posting dunks in here that belong in dunk_tank, as well as low-hanging fruit that gets removed from or isn't allowed in dunk_tank anymore. For context, rule 8 of dunk_tank:

Rule 8: The subject of a post cannot be low hanging fruit, that is comments/posts made by a private person that have low amount of upvotes/likes/views. Comments/Posts made on other instances that are accessible from hexbear are an exception to this.

There's a reason that dunks are cordoned off to their own comm, some users rightfully don't want to see reactionary nonsense all the time, even if we're making fun of the person who said it. /c/cth is a general-purpose comm but it's NOT for posting some random nobody asshole twitter user's bad takes, the absolute best course of action to take when you see that stuff out in the wild is to either directly shit on them yourself, or ignore them and don't give them more attention.

From this point on I'm going to be more stringent about moderating this. I get it, it's fun to dunk on the libs and the blue checks and the frothingfash and that's why we have a whole dedicated comm for that. Any post that's obviously meant to be "hey look at this piece of shit, let's laugh at how bad their opinions are, upbears to the left and emojis in chat" belongs in the_dunk_tank. And any super low-hanging fruit doesn't belong on this site, period (see TDT rule 8 above). We have better things to do with our time than give unearned attention, time and energy to low-follower-count nobodies yelling into the void.

Thanks for your discretion comrades, stay sicko sicko-jammin

edit: as others have pointed out, /c/shitreactionariessay@lemmygrad.ml is a good place for any and all dunking content not allowed here. Post that ragebait to our comrades at the 'grad, they'll make good use of it. Also, per rule 9 of TFT dunking on fediverse users is still explicitly allowed so it's still open season on those in our own backyard.

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[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 42 points 6 months ago

Got it posting them in badposting from now on

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[-] booty@hexbear.net 39 points 6 months ago

So there's a type of post that people enjoy posting and engaging with, and a dedicated place to post that type of post. Then you make a rule that that type of post is no longer allowed in that dedicated place, so people naturally post it outside the dedicated place. surprised-pika

Just revert this shitty rule change and the "problem" will be solved

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

Noooo but I don't enjoy seeing those posts! I have better things to do!

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 33 points 6 months ago

This is an entirely predictable result of the addition of the bad rule 8 to the_dunk_tank

[-] booty@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The purpose of this comm is literally to quarantine all of the "finding an idiot to get mad at" posts. This rule change is gonna make the rest of the site worse.

-ElGosso, 30 days ago on the dunk tank rule change post. Hm. Must be a psychic. Only explanation.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

I called it too and asked for a quarantine zone for those kinda posts but was denied. LET US HAVE OUR SLOP

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This conviction the mods seem to have that "[dunking on] super low-hanging fruit doesn't belong on this site, period" is weird and bad

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Also "low hanging fruit" are posts not a lot of people have seen, while I guess the "high effort dunks" are posting whatever garbage Elon and jk have been up to because they have more views. Seems backwards to me :shrug-outta-hecks:

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago

"I saw this and now you have to see this too" is not a good reason for posting. People don't need to see every bad take on the internet.

[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

And the cousin of that one: “I got into an argument with a lib on Reddit so here’s our chain of single upvote comments, please tell I won the argument”

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

Exactly! That's the type of thing that should be clear is banned.

There's gonna be a middle ground between there and "moderately famous poster" that's gonna take some figuring out, but even just trimming that and things like 15-like YouTube comments from someone with a couple of subscribers, random anonymous racists arguing in the comments of a local newspaper article, things like that.

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

"I saw this, thought it was a funny bad take, and am now sharing with other people who will laugh at this fool" is usually my thought. I imagine the same is true for other dunk tank posters?

now you have to see this too

No one actually has to view the dunk tank. They can block it, scroll by, whatever. I scroll past a lot of posts. Hextube gets pinned all the time, but is of no relevance to me. Other comms I've blocked all together 🤷

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[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

Right. Seems kinda backwards if the criteria is "low hanging"

i-think-that the numbers below a post do not actually affect its dunkability.

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[-] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago

It's crazy, some people are actually so addicted to the emotional feedback loop of human misery that is posting every loser's shit take, that they get hostile when you try to take it away. Couldn't be me.

[-] HeavenAndEarth@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

Yeah it's crazy that some people enjoy different things than me. I just can't understand it.

[-] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

I guess I just enjoy better things, what can I say?

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

Yes, I too enjoy sniffing my own farts.

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[-] Othello@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago

giggling at how mad everyone is getting about this non problem

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[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

We have better things to do with our time than give unearned attention, time and energy to low-follower-count nobodies yelling into the void.

No we don't.

[-] gramxi@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

what I'm getting from this is that super low hanging fruit dunks are bad posts so if we had a place for those 🤔

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[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

Uncritical support to the mods in their struggle against posts featuring bait from edgy 14 year olds with 3 followers 07

[-] DirtyPair@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

lemmygrad also has the shit_reactionaries_say forum

[-] flan@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

Can we have a /c/garbage comm for low hanging fruit for us trash goblins

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[-] Cherufe@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

I just blocked thedunktank a while ago because I dont want to use my free time looking at bad takes

[-] moonlake@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

I support the mods 100% on this decision.

There is effectively an infinite supply of horrible people and horrible takes whereas your time and energy is limited.

I am somebody who lives in an almost constant state of rage and I think that this is the only normal reaction to the hellworld in which we currently live. But that's not a healthy way to live so I try to limit my exposure to the stuff that gives me psychic damage.

That's why I blocked the dunk tank - I enjoy dunking on bad people and bad takes as much as everyone but being exposed to a constant stream of that every day is not a great use of your time and energy.

[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago
[-] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

Since it looks like a lot of people are not happy with this (but others are and make good points), can I be an enlightened centrist for a minute and suggest a compromise? How about a weekly megathread for the low-hanging fruit? That way the reactionary takes stay cordoned off in the dunk_tank comm but the low profile losers don't get much attention drawn to them by someone making an entire post about them, yet those of us who want to can still have the opportunity to show them to others so we can collectively point and laugh. Does that seem like a good middle ground?

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[-] Egon@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I just wanna say that I like rule 8 and I'm happy it's been made. I like dunks and I like the dunk tank, but that means that half the time I'm looking at people sharing some nobody that said something stupid, or a post from 5 years ago. There's billions of people, if you wanna see someone say stupid shit, its not hard to find.
I like the posts that are more like "can you believe this got published?" Or "can you believe this widely loved public person is this deranged?"

[-] Yor@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago
[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

This is taking away the freedom of posting! rage-cry

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago
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