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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by muddybulldog@mylemmy.win to c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world

Edit: obligatory explanation (thanks mods for squaring me away)...

What you see via the UI isn't "all that exists". Unlike Reddit, where everything is a black box, there are a lot more eyeballs who can see "under the hood". Any instance admin, proper or rogue, gets a ton of information that users won't normally see. The attached example demonstrates that while users will only see upvote/downvote tallies, admins can see who actually performed those actions.

Edit: To clarify, not just YOUR instance admin gets this info. This is ANY instance admin across the Fediverse.

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[-] Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Wait so I can randomly connect to this lemmy instance sql server and send a query to get that information?

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[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I don't mind this, but what about my email, is that also publicly available? What about my password? I had to give my email to confirm my sigup to this instance. It would be pretty shitty if my email was up for grabs now. Think of the poor idiots who use the same password for every service they use.

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[-] rostad@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is what lemmy.world tells me when I want to delete my account:

"Warning: this will permanently delete all of your data from this instance. Your data may not be deleted on other, existing instances. Enter your password to confirm."

Edit: So if we want to own our data we should only post, comment and vote within our own instance or just keep in mind that whatever we do on other instances might be there indefinitely.

[-] chris@l.roofo.cc 5 points 1 year ago

Regarding your edit: that will only help if your instance doesn't federate. If someone subscribes to the community on your instance, all actions (posts, comments, votes,...) are sent to all instances with subscribers and saved there.

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[-] SomeOtherUsername@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 year ago

Why are you selecting for long names? 😅

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[-] Ech@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

How would one find this? Is it just a console command?

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[-] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

A government would only need to get its hands on one instance to havest downvote based dissent data.

Tbh I'd rather we had an up-only based vote system though. Downvotes had a lot to do with the reddit culture that I don't want taking over Lemmy.

[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Disapproval has its place in deterring bad behavior. It’s not toxic to disagree with a person. If the only two choices are approval and indifference it promotes toxic behavior as there is nothing to suppress the toxic behavior.

Edit: I understand what you are getting at though and one thing I didn’t like is people using the downvote button as a disagree button. I only ever use it to downvote off-topic, spam, or toxic posts/comments; but I’ve been on Reddit and gotten massively downvoted because I’ve expressed an opinion counter to general consensus (hive mind)

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