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When kids do linear algebra or they rise to the level of GM in chess within the first two decades of their lives, such people are obviously geniuses. Their intelligence is undeniable.

But it's like moral/spiritual geniuses aren't recognized in the same way, if at all. How come their intuitive expertise isn't recognized so easily ?

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[-] Nemo@midwest.social 37 points 11 months ago

Kant? St. Augustine? Siddhartha Budda? Epictetus? Plato? Hobbes?

Ethical philosophy has had plenty of geniuses.

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Immanuel Kant was a real pissant Who was very rarely stable

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 33 points 11 months ago

Probably because morality is subjective and spirituality is a feeling?

[-] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

WTF is a "moral/spiritual genius"? That doesn't even make sense. It sounds like a title someone just made up for themselves to feel important.

[-] Sendpicsofsandwiches@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago

That's exactly what it is

[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 11 months ago

Aren't those subjective things? It's easier to measure something like chess skill or whether or not someone can do complex math, but harder to quantify someone's morality.

[-] Bridger@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago

Anyone operating at that level of morality wants nothing to do with humanity. It's not that there aren't any, it's that you'll never hear of them.

[-] Bezier@suppo.fi 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

moral/spiritual genius

Can you define these? I'm certainly having a hard time trying to.

Morality is a subjective set of views. How can one be better at it than another? With "spiritual" intelligence, I guess we have to define the term itself before even thinking about how to measure it.

Since you wrote this post, you probably have some idea of what a moral genius is supposed to be. Can you describe what makes a person a moral genius and maybe give an example?

But yeah, if someone came to me and called themselves a moral or spiritual genius, I'd think they're either full of it, or insane.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Chances are they are logical geniuses claiming they've solved morals or social interactions.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Joel Osteen thinks he's what you describe. In reality he's a disgusting narcissistic sociopath.

[-] Xantar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 months ago

Moral is dependent on the time and the place. What was morally justified yesterday might be offensive tomorrow.

For example: Adolf Hitler could have been a moral genius in regards to eugenics whereas Martin Luther King would have been a moral idiot.

[-] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Morals are ultimately subjective so it's very easy to dismiss a complex moral argument by simply reject the premise.

Imagine chess ... but everyone get's to modify the rules as they please. If chess was like that, there probably wouldn't be any GM in it either.

[-] mister_monster@monero.town 7 points 11 months ago

There are, its just usually people don't like to hear what they have to say.

[-] dharwin@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago
[-] Bipta@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago

Did he make such great strides at young ages?

[-] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"So, you're a philosopher?"

"Yes. I think very deeply^deeply^ ^deeply^"

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Being able to operate at expert level in one area of endeavor doesn't guarantee that you will be at that same level in all things you do.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There aren't any?

Got some stats on that, or are you just begging the question?

Edit: Maybe you mean to ask "why does it seem geniuses lack morals?".

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