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Well fuck Canonical.

But second, if this explicit sync fixes flickering... Then it's a Bugfix thus a minor patch, no?

So to iterate on point 1: fuck Canonical.

A much needed feature gets released quicker than usual for the benefit of users and they complain about broken faith? They could have just delayed the release until they tested it thoroughly. Using that kind of wording makes me feel they're just in for the drama.

I want everybody to get this stuff as soon as possible but, in this case, I agree with Ubuntu.

They do not support Wayland on NVIDIA in 24.04 at all. So, this cannot be a bug fix. It has been worked on for a long time. It is a new feature.

ELI5?

As gnome shell and ubuntu. Have nio such good faith agreement.

And thisbis just a process ubuntu has to reduce its own work load.

Who really cares. Ubuntu can include and reject any software they choose.

Ubuntu users can also add and take what ever risks they choose.

And gnomeshell can choose to change there releases and software as they choose.

This os the cost of free as in speach software. If you are need 3rd parties to make your software work. You have to accept they have the same freedoms you insist on.

Personally i prefer that and the option to use older versions if thing go wrong. Then a privrate for profit ccompany making the same choices with less freedom for me.

ubuntu is breaking their good faith with me too.

I'm with the Gnome team here.

Sure, "point" releases with Gnome are generally only bug fixes, and Canonical likes that because they just merge those changes without doing much, if any, testing.

But it's also worth mentioning that:

• Gnome is extremely pro-wayland. They've suggested it as default for non-nvidia hardware since 2016. Of course they're going to rush explicit sync support out, and they've done a good job getting it ready in a short space of time. What, are they just supposed to wait until September/October, just for the benefit of Canonical? Fuck no.

• This was literally never an agreement in the first place.

• This is a bugfix, in that it fixes the flickering issues with Nvidia hardware. So even if there was an agreement, I wouldn't consider it broken, really.

• There are distros other than Ubuntu, and I imagine they want this fix ASAP.

• Gnome is run by Gnome devs. Not by Canonical. If they don't like it, fork it or go back to Unity or something. It's not like Canonical doesn't have the money.

I fear people will interpret this story as "ugh gnome devs being gnome devs!", like they always do. But as usual, there's a reason for Gnome making this choice, and in this case they're unquestionably correct, IMO.

This is the best summary I could come up with:

GNOME Shell and Mutter had been covered by Ubuntu's GNOME MicroReleaseException "MRE" policy that allows for new point releases to ship rather easily as stable updates to existing Ubuntu Linux releases.

But breaking the camel's back is GNOME 46.1 shipping explicit sync support.

Due to landing a "significant new feature" into a point release, the GNOME Shell and Mutter are no longer covered by this exception.

But the intent is that the point releases are focused on just fixing bugs and not adding new features or other big changes.

Longtime Ubuntu developer Christopher James Halse Rogers announced today that GNOME Shell and Mutter are no longer covered by this exception: "It has been brought to the SRU team’s attention that mutter has landed a significant new feature in the 46.1 point release.

The GNOME MicroReleaseException policy historically exists on the basis that the GNOME release and testing process broadly matches SRU policy, so duplicating that process by performing a full SRU review on GNOME point releases would be unnecessary work.

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