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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by archomrade@midwest.social to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world

Edited to be slightly more fair to people complaining that they don't think genocide is good just fine

Here's a link to join a protest, courtesy of mozz

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[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

This guy does literally nothing but tell people how Democrats are awful people (and implies you shouldn't vote for them)

TONS of posts like that.

I really wouldn't be surprised to find out he's Russian.

No-one is supporting genocide. If people don't vote for Biden (and even if they do, the popular vote might not be enough), Trump will win.

The only case where saying "don't vote for Biden" would be if Trump was actually a better, smarter, more emphatic president, and would use the US's power to instantly stop helping Israel.

And who exactly thinks that's even possible in any scenario or even parallel universe?

Not voting for Biden would be like being a pro-Hitler British person in 1939.

[-] bobburger@fedia.io 13 points 5 months ago

He's a voter suppressionist actively trying to get Trump elected under a thin veneer of guilt and shame. He's appealing to people that haven't been paying attention and think the Israeli mistreatment of Palestinians started right after October 7th, rather than in 1948. By doing this tries to claim that American support of genocide is brand new thereby absolving himself and others of the guilt associated with it, unless of course they also support The Genocide™ by voting for Joe Biden.

More importantly he can claim that Joe Biden is the only presidential candidate that supports The Genocide™, so vote for someone else and you won't be supporter of The Genocide™. The quiet part is that Trump never supported The Genocide™ because it never happened until Biden was president.

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[-] Spazz@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 5 months ago
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[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yup. These people honestly think… or, “honestly” think- that not voting is going to actually do something.

Now we have two scenarios to address here:

One:

They actually think in good-faith, that they are going to make a change. To emphasize- they actually think that doing nothing will cause something to happen. Which means… they are entirely unaware that someone will be elected with or without their help.

And-

Two:

They know damn well that a non-vote will help Trump and that is why they are here. There is clearly more evidence to support this being the case as you’ll never see them on any post critical of Trump, suggesting that people not vote for him. Nor do you see them arguing that Trump wouldn’t be a worse choice. Nope. They’re dead silent on the issue.

They don’t need to actively support Trump, or suggest people vote for him here as they know there are very few supporters of his on lemmy.

However, they DO know that conservatives show up to the booths to vote. In DROVES. All they need is to convince a small amount of people to stay home, and their boy wins the White House.

One of these two are correct. The problem is that everyone loses either way- and they don’t care.

[-] slurpyslop@kbin.social -1 points 5 months ago

if you vote for biden, you are voting for genocide

that seems kind of objectively true to me

you don't pick and choose which policies your candidate's vote goes towards it counts for all of them

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[-] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

No one is arguing a little genocide is good. They're arguing that a lot of genocide is clearly worse. This seems obvious, but I'm constantly surprised how fucking stupid people are.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They are not stupid; they are deliberately misunderstanding.

I feel a little bit silly even trying to “explain” this like there will be anyone who’s informed by it, but no one here is pro genocide. I would be surprised if you could find 5 people on Lemmy ever who said that genocide is good if done by Democrats, or at any other time.

Here is where to find a protest; go there and meet some new friends, do what you can to stop the genocide. How to do it, I don’t really know, but posting on Lemmy about not voting for Biden will not accomplish it for a couple of different reasons.

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[-] Nougat@fedia.io 11 points 5 months ago
[-] joenforcer@midwest.social 5 points 5 months ago

Never been more thankful for a block function. This clown is bad for all of us.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 4 points 5 months ago

I'm tempted, but it's also important to address propaganda as it appears.

[-] joenforcer@midwest.social 4 points 5 months ago

Fair, I will continue to use my buttons to push this content out of view.

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[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

I have their entire instance blocked. It’s a train wreck

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[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Dude! Nice man you built there. Really slick. What’s it made of? Oh? Straw?

Cool cool. Lightweight. Organic. Biodegradable! No downsides to that I’m su—

HOLY SHIT

Holy shit holy shit it’s on fire. The straw man! It’s burning! Your poor man of straw! It couldn’t stand up to the heat of even a little interrogation!!

Ugh. I’m shocked about this! Apalled. No one could have predicted this, no one.

I am so sorry for your loss. It must be truly a blow. Well, take care now. I usually block accounts like these. :)

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

This….. was fucking beautiful. Bravo!

[-] archomrade@midwest.social -1 points 5 months ago

I'm glad I didn't rile you too much

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago
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[-] Spazz@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 5 months ago

JFC, no Democrat is supporting genocide, they're just not willing to pay the price to stand up to the people committing it.

Besides, all you accomplish by beating up the Democrats over this is ensuring the people who are literally pro genocide will be in power next year

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago

My only goal is to convince the spineless liberals that they can't just count on people holding their nose this election. "The other option is worse" doesn't even begin to convince the voters they need to win this election

Quick reminder that was Clinton's strategy. Ask everyone here if you're not familiar how that turned out

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

LOVING that ratio! Lemmy is turning for the better!

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah! Maybe if if they add the votes on this post to the election results, Biden won't even NEED to win Pennsylvania, Wisconsin OR Michigan! Could you imagine??

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Oh look! It’s a .ml’er come to spread their…. “wisdom?” I’m surprised there’s no memes and emojis though.

Your sarcasm doesn’t change what I said being true. It just makes you look bitter.

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