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[-] ynazuma@lemmy.world 99 points 4 months ago

France, doing the right thing

Producers always tout and advertise when they put more into the package, but fail to let us know when they reduce the contents

This is common sense

[-] HejMedDig@feddit.dk 39 points 4 months ago

We recently had a local candy brand advertise that the packaging has gotten smaller, but still contained the same amount. So I guess that they over time had removed enough pieces, that the box started to look suspiciously empty, and they then shrank the box to make it look fuller

[-] argh_another_username@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 months ago

Brazil did this years ago. We see in the package “new weight, from X to Y, reduction of N%”. And nothing actually came out of it. Everyone does, we have to buy it, shit stays the same.

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

You don’t have to buy it though! None of the packaged products in a grocery store are necessities. You could live a very healthy lifestyle eating only the fresh stuff from the store!

[-] metaStatic@kbin.social 5 points 4 months ago

it is my contention that you could eat any random items form the perimeter of the store and be healthier than anyone that buys items from the health food aisle.

Food is an ingredient, it shouldn't have ingredients

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[-] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 29 points 4 months ago

While I think this is a step in the right direction, I don't think it's fair to put this on the grocers that didn't do anything wrong. This should be a labeling requirement for the manufacturer that's doing it. So instead of the one doing the harm having to take the brunt of the cost for doing it in the first place, instead the grocer has to take the time and money to do it and also keep up with any new changes. Again, step in the right direction. Never let perfect be the enemy of good.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The US needs nationally mandated unit price labeling. We’ve had it in NY for as long as I can remember.

You’d be shocked at how often the middle size is the best deal. It’s almost always the case with cereal. The large box ends up more expensive than the medium per ounce, but people assume it’s the better deal because it’s a bigger package.

https://www.nist.gov/pml/owm/laws-and-regulations/us-retail-pricing-laws-and-regulations#:~:text=Currently%2C%20nineteen%20(19)%20states,Vermont%20and%20the%20Virgin%20Islands.

[-] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 10 points 4 months ago

Unit price labeling is mandatory in France too. This is the only price I'm looking at when shopping.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I’m sorry. The article is clearly about France, but my comment was America-centric. I edited my comment to for clarity.

I’m glad to hear you have unit pricing available in France. I can’t imagine the time people must spend doing the math for comparison shopping in regions without it.

Do you think the shrinkflation stickers will make a difference in educating the average consumer, or be more effective as a shaming tool for manufacturers?

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

They’re still jerks about it in stores. To keep you from easily comparing products they’ll offer the unit price per oz for one box, then give you the unit price per lb for the other. So they make you do the math, and I’m sure plenty of people just skip that and buy the larger size.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That’s against regulations if you live in a unit price mandated state. You can report misuse of unit price labeling to your State Director.

According to NIST SP 1181, under Consistency of Units and Measure:

The declaration of the unit price of a particular category of product in all package sizes offered for sale in a retail establishment shall be uniformly and consistently expressed in the same unit of measure. The same unit of measure should be used whether a product category is sold in a fixed weight pre-pack, loose from bulk, or in a random weight pack.

[-] DigitalDruid@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 4 months ago

whoa i just looked it up and my state has mandatory unit pricing laws that my kroger breaks in every aisle!

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Looks like I’ve got some reporting to do.

[-] dan@upvote.au 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Costco do this too, at least in my area in California. They price some canned drinks per fluid ounce, and others per can. Really annoying.

I used to see Walmart do it too, but I think they've gotten better.

[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

I've been thinking of a solution for this. What if products were required to be sold in standard increments. No 11.2 floz, either 6 floz or 12 floz. No 960 grams, only increments of 250 grams up to 1 kg, then increments of 1 kg. It would make product comparison much easier and make it obvious when shrinkflation is happening.

[-] myliltoehurts@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago

I wish you were the one writing the laws, this would be awesome.

[-] Beryl@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

It's mandatory to display the price per kg or L in France, which makes comparing the value much easier.

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[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago

I always look at the price/kg. Makes no difference what size the packaging is, that price will always tell which one is the cheapest.

[-] viralJ@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Me too, but there is one UK retailer (Co-operative) that makes it hard for you. They will have, say, a punnet of strawberries with 200g strawberries in it for £3.50 and another one with 300g for £4.50. The labels will say "unit price: £3.50/unit" or "£4.50/unit". (No, really?) So you have to do your own maths. Luckily other markets are sensible enough to actually provide price per weight. And in Tesco, when a given product is cheaper for clubcard holders, it will even give price per weight twice, for both normal price and clubcard price.

Btw. I don't work for Tesco. I just needed to vent about Co-op being dicks; Tesco just serves as a good counter example of how this should be done, in case any Co-op executive is reading this.

[-] Taalen@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

You don't necessarily always check for something you're used to buying, so the shrinking may go unnoticed for a while.

[-] tpihkal@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

NOW WITH 10% LESS PRODUCT!!

[-] errer@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Gotta think more like a corporation: “Now 10% easier to carry!”

[-] dan@upvote.au 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

10% fewer calories per pack.

Like the "light" juices that are "50% lower in sugar" because they dilute it 1:1 with water. I could just do that at home!

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[-] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

We have unit price labeling here in Oregon, but they use different measurements for the same type of is products.

[-] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago

I wish we had consumer protection in the US, but that's unlikely to happen when corporations own most of our politicians.

[-] dan@upvote.au 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I could see this happening in more progressive states like California, Oregon, or Washington state.

California already has a bunch of consumer protection laws:

  • Store gift cards can never expire and must be redeemable for cash if they have a balance of less than $10.
  • A warranty can't require you to register the product to be eligible for warranty coverage.
  • The CCPA, which is like a mini version of the GDPR. Companies must provide all data they've collected about you upon request, must delete all the data upon request, and must let you opt out from them selling your data (they literally have to have a link labeled "do not sell my personal information" on their site)
  • Anti price gouging laws.
  • As of July 1, drip pricing (hidden fees on top of advertised prices, such as service charges) will be illegal.

And probably a bunch of other ones I can't think of off the top of my head :)

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[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago
[-] dan@upvote.au 2 points 4 months ago

Honey I shrinked the kids

[-] Addv4@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

So, does this apply to products that have already applied shrinkflation, or just those after July 1st?

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Only after. You cannot ignore legal grandfathering or the world would turn upside down.

[-] Addv4@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Don't think that would exactly apply, as this seems to be just a notice that the size has changed without the price changing. Not really turning the world upside down, more just showing which companies/products have been screwing you lately.

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

So once everyone has done it at least once and every item has a warning that the item changed in size without the price, what do we do?

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Keep buying, and maybe make an online petition to protest or something, no one will go farther than that.

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[-] DevCat@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Get yourself a Unit Price Comparison app for your next shopping trip. It will let you know how much you're paying per oz/lb/kg/ml and tell you which is the better buy. A good app will let you save those prices for future comparison.

[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

App recommendations please!

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[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

No need. It is mandatory for almost everything here (France) to have this displayed plainly in store.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Here in the US, that info is already on the price tag, at least in supermarkets.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 4 points 4 months ago

Sometimes they do bullshit like using different units for different products, like oz for one and lb for another.

[-] jonasw@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago

Same in germany, thats always how I compare prices.

[-] Paddzr@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

It's the same all over Europe. I do wonder where they're from where that isn't some sort of legal requirement.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago

You shouldn't need an app to defend yourself against being ripped off.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

Doesn’t Mexico also do this?

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