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[-] save_vs_death@hexbear.net 94 points 5 months ago

This is the dystopian future that civil-liberty campaigners are most afraid of - a China-style mass-surveillance state.

This is so rich coming from the UK, the most CCTVed country in the world. Oh no, if we keep doing this insane-o shit we'll become almost as bad as the image we made up about bad country Jyna.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 48 points 5 months ago

The UK has cops walking around with ARs and full auto SMGs on the streets and train platforms and they’re crying about china lol

[-] wopazoo@hexbear.net 41 points 5 months ago

For context, Chinese cops are unarmed. This is fine because people in China don't have guns.

As a tangent, I got reminded of someone saying that the presence of 50 000 guns in China proves that gun control always fails, completely ignoring the fact that China has a population of 1 400 000 000. That is a rate of 0.000036 guns per person. In comparison, the USA has more guns than people.

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 5 months ago

The London met are unarmed I think, at least the normal people.

Australia doesn't have many guns and people that have them tend to be the most law abiding (even in terms of traffic offenses lmao) but our cops carry 3 torture implements, a glock, wear kevlar vests, and have a long gun in the car along with a few more torture implements.

It's fucking terrifying. No idea why they think they need all that, I immediately feel unsafe every time I see one because they're the only people armed with anything. Nobody even carries knives here, let alone pepper spray or guns.

[-] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Its hilarious when there's crazy knife guys in China cause theres a mancatcher pole in every public building so you'll see like random shopkeeps and security guards pin the guy to a wall with 6 polearms while a public security dude with a shield walks up to disarm. Once again proving pikes are the superior medieval weapon.

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 5 months ago

Honestly I wish our cops used mancatchers. They're so much more humane than pepperspray or tasers. you get a little bruised, held at arms length so no chance of escalation through confusion/wrestling/going for weapons etc, worst case you fall which is a given with a taser.

Like even if there's just confusion and the wrong person gets caught with one there's some embarrassment and brusing and then it's over. No lingering agony, no voided bowels, no chance of heart attack, no burns, no accidental blinding, no asthma attack etc etc.

I guess it's not intimidating enough for the absolute dropkicks that sign up to the police academy and you can't secure a multimillion dollar contract making them and selling consumables.

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

The first Chinese guy to come up with the idea to attach a knife onto a mancatcher will become unstoppable

[-] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

Thankfully, the crazy knife people are aware of the ramifications of starting an arms race, and would rather not have to face off against phalanxes of food stall vendors with increasingly long mancatchers.

[-] Biggay@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago

I had never even heard about mancatchers until now

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago

Nobody even carries knives here

Well yeah. I see you've never played knifey spooney before.

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

yes yes you've watched the simpsons well done at consuming product.

kangaroo, upside down, wombat, koala, ha ha

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago
[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

No I just need people to not say the same three things that were funny 30 years ago whenever I say where I live.

If your comment is plausibly output of a simple bot what's the point? Be human damn it.

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago
[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

What's something funny about Australia that isn't Simpsons derived or something casting aspersions on the chilled out and peaceful earthlings we share this silly island with?

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

chilled out and peaceful earthlings

Yall fuckin did a genocide on an entire continent you are no better than USians

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

Also, say, a pig actually uses a taser on a 95 year old lady with dementia in a nursing home and kills her, he immediately got charged with manslaughter and you see almost zero "back the blue" posts.

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 months ago

I'm having trouble understanding your post.

If you're talking about Senior Constable Kristian White he did not immediately get charged with manslaughter, although it was upgraded to that. He is currently suspended with pay iirc and awaiting being found not guilty in November.

Then again maybe he will be found guilty, the cops have royally pissed off the magistrate in charge of this case by redacting documents and faffing about.

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

Must have misremembered the turn of events. Even so, a manslaughter charge instead of no punishment and moving into the private sector is a pretty clear difference to American cops, like the one that ordered an innocent guy to crawl towards him with his feet crossed and also don't move, and executed him when he didn't do the conflicting instructions correctly

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

Australia is somewhat functional, the civil service does their best and our courts are okayish. Most of the people I've spoken to who commit atrocity in the name of the law feel trapped by it rather than enforce it with glee.

[-] absolutefuckinidiot@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 5 months ago

Cops in china are not only unarmed but they are also friendly and helpful, from my experience anyway even as a dumb annoying westerner.

Completely different vibe from cops in imperial core

[-] wopazoo@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

Cops in China: some fellow you could play cards with

Cops in America: some fellow you'd rather not approach

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Most cops are unarmed in the UK. There's just a detachment of armed ones in the busiest hubs in central London, closer to the queen and houses of parliament and all that.

As someone said, London Metropolitan Police (responsible for the 32 boroughs) is unarmed, but within London there's 'City of London Police' for that specific area. They're the guns.

[-] Miaou@jlai.lu 4 points 5 months ago

I've seen more armed military on a single day in Tian'anmen square that in a cumulated 10 days in London, I know hexbear is supposed to be satire but give me a break.

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 37 points 5 months ago

Another instance of 1984 where everyone blames the commies over something that was born in the UK.

[-] PaX@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago

Every accusation is a confession

But also: every confession includes an accusation

[-] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 74 points 5 months ago

smuglord me when i've been consistently masking in public for the past 4 years

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 71 points 5 months ago

So... When you're blanket banned from food stores where do you get your food?

I guess you just have to steal it.

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 66 points 5 months ago

This is the kind of thing where I want a single failure to mean a ban on that company ever doing anything similar again

Oh, you got one person’s face wrong one single time? Sucks to suck. No more facial recognition for you. In fact, no more security cameras at all, no loss prevention staff, you’re literally not allowed to take any steps to prevent theft anymore because you’ve proven you can’t be trusted with that power.

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago

that would require society to not be a class dictatorship of the bourgeoisie marx-joker

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago
[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago

bloomer a better world is possible

doomer just don't ask me if it's probable

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

Fuck I’m gonna be thinking about this one for a while

Can this be a new site tagline

[-] CyberSyndicalist@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

You have committed the most heinous of crimes; denial of treats

[-] Beetle_O_Rourke@hexbear.net 50 points 5 months ago
[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 34 points 5 months ago

Hey just FYI it's illegal to have your bag searched as a condition of exiting. At least in the US. It's kidnapping.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

To elaborate: if the store does not require any sort of membership or rule to use (e.g. not a Costco or Sam’s Club), no one has the authority to stop you or search you. You can ignore them and just walk out. But if they ask you to leave, you do have to leave or else it’s trespassing, but they must warn you and give you the opportunity to leave first.

Also, if you do give consent to be searched or detained by security/staff, then basically you lose most of your defenses. They can do whatever they want to a “reasonable” degree, e.g. rummage through your shit, dump it all out, take pictures, make you wait for cops, etc.

I usually just flash my receipt to the old lady when I leave and they wave me through. But if there’s a long line I’m just going to cut everyone and leave lol.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 19 points 5 months ago

Also, the membership doesn't intrinsically allow them to do that, there's a provision in the agreement.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago
[-] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

Harry Buttle, Harry Tuttle; it's impossible for the central bureaucracy to make a mistake

[-] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

cool i guess i need to stop swiping soap and shit at harris teeter

[-] CyberSyndicalist@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

The tech might not be perfect yet but with some improvement I'm sure they can get it to 40/40 false positives and keep every customer out of stores making retail almost bearable to work in.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

One could dream

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