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We're going to be seeing a lot more of this going forward...

Let me know if the link works.

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[-] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 42 points 6 months ago

Just like fascists of old parroted leftist language, modern day fascists will and are doing the same.

[-] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I've heard one communist commentator say we should especially watch out for how American fascists will start talking about fighting the "settler colonialism" of climate refugees.

[-] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago
[-] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I know. It seems so possible considering how the far right have so thoroughly demonized refugees in the span of a decade.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

Zionists already have aggressively tried to paint Arabs as colonizers (within Palestinian land) for forever. This isn't new.

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago
[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

It's a never ending arms race between the people using language to clarify things and build class consciousness, and the reactionaries deliberately misusing language and misapplying terms to rob that language of its purpose. nage

[-] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago

zyklon zenz, stop trying to make east turkestan happen

it's not gonna happen

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

relevant: Former CIA Agent John Stockwell Talks about How the CIA Worked in Vietnam and Elsewhere

this author probably got told to "write whatever you want, but include these five key points". and probably given the title

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

Impressive find.

[-] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Not really big news imo, since the settler colonial entity of Isn'treal already has done this, the word "decolonisation" is at maximum co-optation so ~~any serious person knows that they can't outright trust everyone who uses the word~~ we know that unfortunately not everyone who uses the word is a real based decolonial which is a shame since anti-colonial struggles are the most important step towards world socialism which means we need to keep pushing our own semantics

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Original reply I responded to prior to edit so I can leave all this up for teachable moment purposes:

Not really big news imo, since the settler colonial entity of Isn'treal already has done this, the word "decolonisation" is at maximum co-optation so any serious person knows that they can't outright trust everyone who uses the word

Oh fuck off with that. Decolonization is a very important aspect of revolutionary movements in any colonized place like for example the United fucking states.

Just because it is being aggressively co-opted doesn't mean we stop using the word you coward. It means you push back harder and educate people. I am so tired of people ceding ground because of optics when you need to nut the fuck up and push back on that.

Pride has been co-opted so should we just stop talking about queer liberation? Come the fuck on dude.

Edit: restored this comment for review so this reply may no longer apply.

[-] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 6 months ago

I'm sorry for expressing myself poorly. Could you consider unremoving my comment so I can edit it? I will ~~strike~~ or even erease the last paragraph to clear any ambiguity. I knew my wording wasn't great but I thought my intentions would still be transparent, however since it's apparently not the case.

To me, anti-colonial organisation carry the best hope humanity has for a revolution in the imperial core, since this entity is yet too colonialist to achieve class consciousness. This is how important this subject is to me. I fully support my local decolonial media and organisation.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

okay it came off REALLY bad so my apologies for the friendly fire. Saying you "can't outright trust anyone who uses the word [decolonization]" was just super sus.

Also to add to this for anyone that wants to read more here is the Chunka Luta online library: https://mega.nz/folder/cuMwjRyK#eDPayQSdYFwaCh9qr8zzPw

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

Haven’t they also tried this with the various nationalities of Russia?

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago
[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

gunther zenz

this The Marx and Engels of nato-cool ideology

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The take seems to be "Every attempted coup in Russia is actually an independence movement, but the actual independence movements in the Donbas are 'Russian seperatists' and Ukraine is right to shell them"

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

lol they do this to Russia too. if you oppose US empire they are going to hire mercenary academics to decorate US attacks as progressive support for some oppressed group.

we even know what happens when the US' "commitment" to these people is tested---rebel Kurds in Syria & Iraq get hung the fuck out to dry by the Yankkkees when they don't serve US ends anymore despite decades of US media talking up how US invasions were supporting and had the support of the Kurds. and now their neighbors don't like them because the US came 'on their behalf'

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

Okay, link works for me, at least.

[-] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago
[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

Hey, now, I'm Turkish!

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