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Since 1940, an estimated 50% of zoonotic disease emergence has been associated with agriculture (1–3). This estimate, however, is necessarily conservative because only direct agricultural drivers are considered in the epidemiological literature, i.e., within the farm gat

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The intensification of animal agriculture through confinement and industrialization has directly led to the emergence of viruses including Nipah and H5N1 influenza (“swine flu”) (18) and antibiotic-resistant infectious bacteria including methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus and Escherichia coli (19, 20).

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.add6681

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[-] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 35 points 5 months ago

(this is your cue to stop buying animal products)

[-] buttfarts@lemy.lol 19 points 5 months ago

Is there a vegan option that still supports animal cruelty? I don't mind giving up meat but I need to know that all of gods creatures will still suffer from the Dominion of mankind

[-] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 9 points 5 months ago

Hmm well for one thing you can pollute more to make up for your smaller environmental footprint on a vegan diet, maybe get some trash fires going in the backyard, throw plastic in the ocean, that sort of thing, and then maybe watch dog fights and buy stocks in animal ag companies to help them lobby to subsidize torturing unimaginable numbers of animals?

[-] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago

You could eat some CEOs

[-] buttfarts@lemy.lol 2 points 5 months ago

They give me gas

[-] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago

They give lots of people lots of gas

[-] bobotron@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

No thanks, but I'll try and buy less at least

[-] FermatsLastAccount@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Based

[-] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Wish the alternatives weren't so expensive at restaurants and the such. Honestly don't get it, whenever I cook my self, the meat is always the most expensive part, so why is vegetarian or god forbid vegan food so expensive at restaurants? Stuff like soi meat strips are dirt cheap, not to mention will likely never spoil in storage. I know like one restaurant that actually serves the meatless food cheaper, but that one generally strives to be as mass affordable as possible.

[-] MacedWindow@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Just wait Mad Broccoli Disease is coming

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Plants don't have the same receptors as animals. Disease jumping from plants to animals is much more difficult. Even the diseases that you hear about coming from plants are usually from spraying or containmention from animal manuare produced by animal agriculture

We aren't dumping 73% of the worlds antibiotics on plants like we are with animal agriculture

[-] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 months ago

you’ll have a different tone of voice when the world gets hit with the Cauliflower Flu /s

[-] sulgoth@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Caulifluer

[-] VeryImportantUser@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Ban meat now

[-] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 months ago

I have ARFID, if I stop eating meat I will literally starve to death

[-] FermatsLastAccount@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

I also have ARFID. But basic morality lead to me becoming vegetarian when I was 10.

[-] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

How were you able to accomplish this?

Edit: I want to mention that I don't mean to be rude with this comment, I am asking genuinely as it's been especially bad lately.

[-] FermatsLastAccount@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

For me, meal replacements such as Soylent (used to be Ensure before I became vegan) are a big part of my diet. I've always had an easier time with liquids than solids.

[-] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 5 points 5 months ago

Too bad, a random jackass online says you need to die /s

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago

Fortunately we're making fast advancements in cultured meat. You'll be able to eat chicken raw since cultured chicken doesn't require salmonella to live.

[-] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago

I mean, I'm down as soon as our alternatives become affordable for low income families.

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 months ago

They already are. Animal flesh is most expensive. There are plenty of plant foods that are healthier and more affordable.

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 9 points 5 months ago

All those expensive beans have bankrupted MILLIONS of house holds =(((

[-] FermatsLastAccount@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

There's an inverse relationship when it comes to income and veganism. Lower income people are more likely to be vegan than high income. Additionally, POC are significantly more likely to be vegan. The image that veganism is for rich white people is a myth.

[-] cumskin_genocide@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

We need more meat alternatives like dog and cat. There are millions of wild dogs and cats just waiting to be ate.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 11 points 5 months ago

Another? What diseases are they spreading?

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 25 points 5 months ago

The H5N1 strain of bird flu is the big one right now, but it's responsible for a large amount of disease spead

Since 1940, an estimated 50% of zoonotic disease emergence has been associated with agriculture (1–3). This estimate, however, is necessarily conservative because only direct agricultural drivers are considered in the epidemiological literature, i.e., within the farm gat

[...]

The intensification of animal agriculture through confinement and industrialization has directly led to the emergence of viruses including Nipah and H5N1 influenza (“swine flu”) (18) and antibiotic-resistant infectious bacteria including methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus and Escherichia coli (19, 20).

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.add6681

[-] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 5 months ago

FFS can we please not get bird flu out and trucking?

I'd prefer not to go through another pandemic.

I saw too many rail cans of body bags during the last one. (I should clarify they were empty bags but still it was fuckin horrifying as medical supplies was in super short supply except body bags)

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 5 months ago

They were the most likely culprit in the H1N1 swine flu epidemic that almost killed a guy I know (he was a pretty healthy 20-something and had to be put on a ventilator and induced coma). The cause of that epidemic was related to literal lakes of untreated pig feces generated by factory farms and likely spread to humans via flies.