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[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 96 points 5 months ago

Imagine you are in an environment using Windows (with Recall enabled and all other spyware and advertisements on OS level), use Photoshop enabling Adobe to spy on you and play Valorant with an Anticheat system that runs all the time at highest Kernel level access to everything on your system, and use Chrome spying on you too.

I almost vomit...

[-] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 12 points 5 months ago

Wouldn't it be nice to set 'em all up to want something (perhaps the glowing suitcase (soul?) from Pulp Fiction) and watch the greedy bastards fight, fight, fight...?

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

Bro, wtf 😂

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 54 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Wait, is this just projects stored in your online Adobe cloud account, or are they even stealing your content if you're just using their desktop software? Because one of these is way, way worse than the other, even if neither is exactly good...

[-] infeeeee@lemm.ee 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The new AI features require internet, and they are running on their servers, so it should affect those as well. They have a ~~"generative fill"~~ "neural filters" which adds features to your image, so they definitely needs your full image to generate something.

In cracked photoshop these tools are not working, obviously. So i guess if you use these cloud tools than you send your images directly to adobe hq.

[-] grillgamesh0028@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I have a cracked PS install, and the generative fill works just fine for me, and its got all inbound/outbound connections blocked on my firewall.

[-] Opisek@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

The generative fill has been around for way longer than the AI craze.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 points 5 months ago

Are you thinking of "content-aware fill"? Generative fill is, as far as I'm aware, much, much newer and uses newer generative AI. Content-aware fill is basically clever automatic clone stamping.

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[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Now that can be an issue for some people (I mean secret contracts and stuff like that). I ~~don't use an image editor but if I did, I'd~~ use Krita btw

[-] urska@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 months ago

Krita, Inkspace, Gimp. I understand those who use it professionally but not the zealots who dont/barely use it yet demand for it like their life depended on it.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 14 points 5 months ago

If you're using it professionally, you need your Photoshop to be properly licensed.

If you're not using it professionally, there's no need for proper licenses. And thus you can...acquire Photoshop in a way that doesn't involve it calling back to Adobe's systems.

[-] blindsight@beehaw.org 3 points 5 months ago

I mean, sure... But a whole lot of people use Photoshop professionally without a license.

Krita is great, though. Their Android version is even fully featured, so you can use a tablet with a digitizer if you don't have a drawing pad for your desktop.

[-] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

I've finally started learning to use krita, I'm enjoying it a lot (begrudgingly)

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[-] shininghero@pawb.social 30 points 5 months ago

Thankfully I don't do anything that requires me to have Photoshop, but if I did, I'd be explicitly blocking all outbound connections in the firewall.

[-] NateSwift@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 5 months ago

Pretty sure the way Adobe’s licensing works you need to be always online to use it

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 10 points 5 months ago

Then you would violate the agreement, which could terminate the access to your stuff and the app.

[-] shininghero@pawb.social 11 points 5 months ago

I doubt that for two reasons:

  • There's no non-admin way for an app to discern if it's a firewall block, or a legitimate no-internet situation (i.e. didn't purchase in-flight WiFi). It would also look really bad PR-wise if a company banned customers just because their internet went down or was otherwise spotty.

  • How would they even know? Their software can't tattle on me if it's been blocked from establishing a connection.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 points 5 months ago

They could require the app to connect once every 30 days or similar in order to keep functioning.

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[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

Could you recommend a tutorial to help me do that?

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[-] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 5 months ago

Well shit

It was only a matter of time given current trends

[-] urska@lemmy.ca 21 points 5 months ago

u vfill own nothing and be happy.

[-] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 5 months ago

I like owning my shit and want to keep owning my shit

I see GIMP and Krita in my near future

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 7 points 5 months ago

In the upcoming weeks or months (they are late as fuck) GIMP will release its long awaited version 3.0. This has some huge improvements, so a good opportunity to try out if when it comes. If you are coming from Photoshop, know that some of the important features will still be missing in GIMP, such as non destructive editing (it will only have a few features regarding that). Krita is more full featured in regard non destructive editing, but is focused on drawings, still capable of generic image editing.

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[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 4 points 5 months ago

If you keep using these, then you won't own anything.

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 months ago

I can't bring myself to feel sorry for Adobe users, which unfortunately include my wife. Same goes for any of the other shit services out there. It takes determination and self-control to move away from all that crap, but as a person that sees himself with less self-determination than most, I was able to pull it off, so those that don't can enjoy their hostage position.

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

I feel the same way with Adobe and Apple.

[-] Sina@beehaw.org 3 points 5 months ago

This is a silly take. Who would sacrifice half -or more- their work efficiency to make a point?

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[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

krita is pretty good. Not as good as photoshop, but it's 85% there and doesn't do bullshit adobe things. There's an addon for it that brings photoshop like ai tools using stable diffusion, and runs entirely locally.

[-] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 months ago

This is why I don't use Adobe.

I'm so glad I saw the red flags from earlier and decided to stay far away from anything Adobe.

Anyways, this is the new business tactic. Start stealing confidential information by somehow forcing a new ToS change or update.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago

I think they've already been doing this for awhile? They must be about to get caught or something. They want to use, and probably already are, your new ideas for training AI.

[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago

I know historically if you scanned a bank note into Photoshop it'd give you a popup window telling you off lol

[-] WolfLink@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

This has been a legal requirement by the government for a while, in order to combat counterfeit money. Many tools that work with images will complain about banknotes, even printers.

Also it’s not AI based and isn’t sending your image to a server. It’s checking for certain specific anti-counterfeit details of banknotes.

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[-] Railison@aussie.zone 10 points 5 months ago

Confidential projects, etc. amirite?

[-] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 5 months ago

https://w14.monkrus.ws/ oops my cat started walking on my keyboard sorry guys, i hope the link that came out doesn't contain any unlicensed adobe software

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[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 5 months ago

Like... do they just not want money from the main group of digital artists who generate money? It's literally a meme that the best way to make money as an artist is furry porn

[-] urska@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago

they probably dont care, they make more money selling or lending the users data.

[-] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago

If you keep using these tools then you get what you deserve

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[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago
[-] dumbass@leminal.space 6 points 5 months ago

Its ok Adobe, you can admit you want to look at peoples furry porn, we won't judge you here!

Hell, you can just ask half of lemmy for some, I'm sure they'd be happy to share.

[-] airikr@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Back to try learning darktable again then...

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

Can you encrypt before uploading to adobe cloud?

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[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Ahahahahahahahahahaha damn I'm so happy I retreated back to GIMP and Paint.NET.

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