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[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 months ago

Aren't the Apple and Android networks supposed to be working together? I thought that's why Google delayed this, because anyone could be tracked without knowing by a tracker on the other network.

[-] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Kind of. From what I've heard each network will alert you if it always sees the same tracker from the other network, as a precaution against unwanted tracking / stalking. I don't believe it goes further than that though, as in the networks won't report back all the tags they see on a daily basis to help with location.

Any tag following you = alert

Tag from the other network seen = nothing

[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 months ago

Duuuuude.... They couldn't just take that extra step and broadcast the location? It would make both types of trackers far more useful

[-] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Of course they could, this is a software limitation. However consumer friendliness is not in either companies interests. Apple prefers to keep total control over their ecosystems so they aren't going to do Google any favours, and Google likely doesn't care much either way seeing how long it's taken them to even attempt a similar network.

[-] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 9 points 5 months ago

They both implemented ways to detect each others tags and warn their users.

Afaik that's as far as it goes.

[-] br3d@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

I got some of those Chipolo trackers shown in the photo. So far I'm pretty disappointed. Based on the locations being reported, I'm pretty sure my phone is the only one in my city working on the Find my Device system, and even that is intermittent. For example, I've left my bike, which has a Chipolo tracker hidden on it, in public places such as a busy train station. After two days on the station platform - with goodness knows how many Android phones passing by - the bike is still showing as being at home in my garage. Like, it didn't even get logged on my own phone as I cycled to the station and left the bike and tracker there. The system really isn't up to speed yet

[-] vvv@programming.dev 9 points 5 months ago

I personally disabled the feature on my phone when it popped up as available. I don't have much of an interest in contributing to a weird surveillance network.

[-] Suoko@feddit.it 7 points 5 months ago

Despite I admit I might find this feature useful, I wonder what "young" iPhoned generation thinks about it: be part of the surveillance network and ignore any worst case distopic future you can be trapped in, or be at least critical about it and have some kind of doubts and questions? To me it looks like most of them just accept anything and laugh about any critical thought they're offered cause they are in a iTrust world.

Google maps history is not that different and I liked it as long as it's supposed to be really "my private data" but we know it's not, and own cloud data is still something too nerd for the mass.

[-] littlewonder@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Pretty sure actual surveillance organizations don't need a known Android service to locate you and track what you're doing.

[-] vvv@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago

Right. So why does my phone also need to be a part of surveiling others?

[-] Today@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I just airtagged my dogs - they're escapers. Set it up with my husband's iPhone. I scanned a tag with my android and it gave me the option to erase the tag. Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the tag?

[-] Elkenders@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I have an airtag and an android phone and I've seen no such prompt. Mind taking a screenshot please?

[-] Today@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

The instructions are just to remove the battery, which i guess is kind of obvious.

[-] Elkenders@feddit.uk 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah so you can stop people tracking you. But you can't reset it to become 'yours' without the original login.

[-] Today@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Ah. Yeah. I think i read about people being tracked. It seems like they make it easy to steal a bag and turn off the tracker, but i guess they could also just throw it away, so it's the same.

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 5 points 5 months ago

Literally the only thing I wished google would copy from apple, and they are managing to screw it up.

[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

What's wrong with them? I never used them (I don't have an iPhone), but they seem useful.

they're fucking creepy. I donmt want my location to be tracked by apple or malicious third parties.

[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I see, I was thinking from the the perspective of using them, not someone malicious dropping one on you, that's definitely a problem.

At least your phone should inform you of it, unlike with the generic GPS trackers on Amazon.

this post was submitted on 10 Jun 2024
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