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submitted 5 months ago by Keeponstalin@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

From June 1 to June 11, Israeli forces killed over 800 Palestinians and wounded over 2,400 as they carried out bombardments and raids across Gaza, Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) reported. This is an average of over 72 Palestinians killed each day at the hands of Israeli forces.

This includes Israel’s assault of Nuseirat refugee camp on Saturday that killed 274 Palestinians, including 64 children, and injured 698 others, with Israeli forces carrying out one of the most deadly single attacks of their genocidal siege so far in order to retrieve four Israelis held hostage in Gaza. The attack was carried out on a bustling civilian center in the middle of the day, raising questions about whether Israeli forces violated international law.

The 11-day death toll also includes at least 70 Palestinians killed and over 300 wounded due to heavy Israeli shelling in central Gaza on June 4, MSF said; and at least 40 Palestinians killed and 74 wounded on June 6, when Israel bombed a UN school-turned-shelter in Nuseirat. The killings of hundreds of Palestinians in other Israeli attacks, ranging across southern, central and northern Gaza, in the first days of June have otherwise been largely ignored by news outlets, and are hardly documented by official sources.

Behind each death is a horrifying story of a Palestinian who lived through months of displacement, constant bombardment, hunger and likely the loss of family members, bearing witness to the 37,000 people killed by Israel in Gaza over eight months just to themselves be killed by Israeli forces. Survivors recall horrors, like children who recount being pulled out of the rubble of their homes, and the pervading smell of death.

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[-] PixelTron@lemm.ee 62 points 5 months ago
[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

I wonder who downvoted you. Must either not be an Aussie, or a zionist cunt.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

In the case of an Aussie Zionist, it's 50/50. Or Schrödinger's Cunt, if you will.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Dr. Schrodinger: As you can see, zhere is no vay of knowing if ze cat is Australian until you look inside ze box.

Cat, from inside the box: Cunt

Dr. Schrodinger: Shut up

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I want a limited tv series based on your comment. One of those "one season only on purpose so we don't have to attempt to top this" comedy series 😁

[-] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 53 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I can't imagine this ever settling down. How could they ever become neutral let alone good neighbours ever after all this that Israel has been doing to Palestine during the past half year??!

It was bad before but this is unforgivable!

[-] Nevoic@lemm.ee 54 points 5 months ago

The end goal is near-total eradication of the natives. Similar to native americans in the U.S. Israel is a settler state, much like the U.S was, and actively drove the natives out of their homes. They're almost done though, we're seeing some of the final acts of the ethnic cleansing/genocide.

Once there are barely any left, they'll feign sympathy to garner support, and that'll be that. Another win for imperialist settler states. Nothing unique or special about it.

[-] thundermoose@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm sure there are plenty of Israelis that want to do this even if they won't admit it to themselves but this isn't the final anything. The IDF has killed around 37,000 Palestinians out of ~2.3 million. That's horrible but nowhere near the "barely any left" stage.

A genocide on the scale of millions takes industrial effort to accomplish. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but given Israel's reliance on foreign aid, current industrial capacity, and political position, it seems unlikely. My guess is Israel will take some more territory and the conflict (kinda tough to call the IDF bombing almost exclusively civilians a war) will peter out. Foreign aid will be allowed back in and Israel will put its mask back on.

Personally, I don't see how this doesn't end with half the middle east actively going to war with Israel if they don't stop soon. The only thing really keeping them safe is the US, and Israel has burned a lot of political capital here. Their leaders are awful, power-hungry shits, but they're not stupid. If they don't try to rebuild some of that capital, there's every chance that Israel loses its lifeline.

What comes years after things die down, I don't know. Gazan sentiment towards Israel was already overwhelmingly negative before this, but the IDF has never done anything on this scale before. I don't think Israel can allow Gaza any type of self-governance for decades after this. This is beyond even post-WW2 Japan levels of destruction, and unlike Japan every nation around them is still on their side.

[-] Nevoic@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They've already bombed the vast majority of Gaza and resettled people, and the next step is almost certainly another expansion of the settler state of Israel.

Most of the millions of people that live in Gaza have been resettled into a very small area. Whether Israel decides to nuke them or force them into neighboring countries as refugees is irrelevant to their end goal of settling the territory. The Palestinians are just "rats" that need to be removed.

I'm sure they'd prefer to nuke them and just get rid of their problem once and for all; a final solution of sorts. However they do have limited political capital in this conflict, and nuking the remaining civilians does have the potential to negative impact U.S-Isrsel relations. So there's a real chance they opt for just pushing the "human animals" out of the territories.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

It will be the ultimate irony when Israel finally carries out its own Holocaust of millions.

[-] spiderplant@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago
[-] thundermoose@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Not sure where that 200k number is from. The article you linked doesn't say that and I haven't seen a number that high reported anywhere myself. All the info I have seen bounds the estimates between 30k and 50k killed, either through active combat or through disease/malnourishment/injury.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2023/10/9/israel-hamas-war-in-maps-and-charts-live-tracker

[-] spiderplant@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago
[-] thundermoose@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Ralph Nader saying that he thinks the death toll is over 200k is not a reasonable source to cite. The 30-50k estimates from most sources are already appallingly high. There's an active contingent of Ben Shapiro types trying to convince everyone what Israel is doing is fine, don't give them ammo to cast doubt on the official death count.

[-] spiderplant@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

The death toll was frozen for weeks and 1.1 million people have been experiencing acute famine as well as the entire 2.3 million having no access to healthcare in the middle of an active genocide. The official estimates are incredibly low.

I accept the official death count but to ignore what they aren't counting, which I've listed above also does a disservice to the realities on the ground.

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[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Modern day trail of tears... except the killing is easier.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Ya know, it sucks that you’re right.

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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Israel committting an Oct7 every single week.

Israel kills more children than Oct 7 every single day.

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[-] StaySquared@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

Side note:

Do a little investigative reading regarding Israel and their part in the killing of Armenian Christians. Chit is wild.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 months ago

A little investigative reading?

They are openly allied to Azerbaijan, supply it with most advanced weapons, and Israel's puppet organizations like the ADL have historically went out of their way in Armenian Genocide denial.

When the argument that recognizing any other genocide insults the Holocaust victims soured completely, they started working by diverting and diluting attention from that subject.

Israel is consistently allied with genocidal and totalitarian powers (not states, rather factions and ideas), because their "business model" as a state is one of selling indulgence papers. Criminals get their reputation whitewashed by supporting Israel, and are interested in supporting Israel even without any direct payback, because it's like a lightning rod for anything else.

One doesn't have to investigate it, they are not hiding it.

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

That is a giant number. Wow.

[-] spiderplant@lemm.ee 39 points 5 months ago

Wait until you find out the actual death toll is likely 200,000+ over the last 8 months.

The 37,000 number is only bodies that have been identified, cases of starvation and disease are also excluded.

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

This. Not talking about starvation and disease, which are the most common causes of death during conflicts like this (especially in this case where Gazans are subjected to inhumane conditions), is simply doing a favor to the genociders.

[-] exanime@lemmy.today 19 points 5 months ago

I'm sure this time, unlike the prior times in the last 5000 years, slaughter will bring lasting peace

/S

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[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

but they saved three people!

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