‘It’s emotionally very difficult’: mobilisation squads face hostility as Ukraine tries to boost army ranks (www.theguardian.com)

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[-] Leon_Frotsky@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago

literally every time i read an article about ukraine im just filled with sadness, like the country's being bombed to shit while simultaneously being gutted by western "investors", an immense amount of weapons poured into the country, and america's going to bill them all for it once the wars over on top of losing what few ukrainian men in their 20s there still was. it feels like that thing parenti said about yugoslavia, where it was destroyed so utterly that it's remnants couldnt even stand as capitalist nations until decades later, just sources of cheap braindrain labour and places for passport bros to visit and sexually exploit the women there, even 25 years later and they still havent fully escaped from it.

[+] TheWurstman@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ok so if something bothers me because it’s fucked up and completely unjust I should just close my eyes and cover my ears and go la la la and it will go away

Ive had multiple people tell me things like “this world is a bad place. I can’t do anything about it so i’m not going to worry about it and focus on the good.” It’s an understandable stance to keep yourself sane, but it becomes obnoxious to point of me wanting to puncture their eyes with my thumbs when they become smug about it or confused why anyone would care about something. Of course, their idea of not caring is constantly butting in and offering their unsolicited takes and advice on the world and then become offended when you stare at them.

The people I interact with, they’re competent technically. They go out of their way to read and learn shit to do their jobs better lol. But when they explicitly tell me they don’t know some shit about a current event or historical event, I provide them with resources and the shit that comes out their mouths never change. Not even a “I read what you gave me and thought it was bullshit” - they quite literally never touch it at all. All the more proof that they don’t actually care about the shit they complain about, or that it’s pretty clear what side they’re on but too much of a coward to state it.

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[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We all have a plan until the first punch. Whether I’m cowardly or “cowardly” depends on who and what I’m expected to fight for. If we lived in a communist nation, fighting to defend our comrades from extinction as the Soviets, Vietnamese, Spanish, Chinese, etc. were, and I dodged a draft, I would be rightfully called a coward. If I can’t do anything else to contribute to the war effort except pick up a gun and buy time for those who can, I would have my shit rocked by other citizens and soldiers if I dodged and I would say I deserve it.

But not everyone in Ukraine is pro government and/or pro west. Ukraine was one of the lowest countries in the west’s democracy indexes until a couple years ago. I can’t imagine every man, especially the older ones who got to enjoy the industries of the Soviet Union, being happy about fighting for a nation that is so corrupt and abandoned them. Dodging a draft in this instance is “cowardly” because you refuse to sacrifice your life for the vultures and capitalists, but to me, that’s nothing more than self defense. And it’s also simply transactional - why should I give the ultimate sacrifice when you have done nothing for me?

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

This war is fucking stupid and has been since day 1. At this point it's just a money printer for weapons contractors. The sooner it comes to an end the better for everyone, dodging the draft is not only intelligent it is praxis.

[-] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Most people are cowards lol. Most people don't have the nerve to willingly sacrifice their life, or even kill someone.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Pimakhov’s bucket hat, Pikhota’s wraparound sunglasses and the pair’s jovial countenance sometimes give them the feel of a comedy double act

Pimakhov was a used car salesman before the full-scale invasion in 2022; Pikhota was working on a construction site in Israel and rushed back to Ukraine when war broke out

Lol the jokes write themselves

[-] someone@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

You just know this guy is pulling something crooked on the side.

[-] JayTreeman@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

25 - 60 year olds. When the wars done, the country is going to be broken and won't recover for 40 years... Yikes

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