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[-] NataliePortland@lemmy.ca 25 points 4 months ago

I don’t want to see anybody get hurt. Those North Koreans should maybe just stay home.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago

A month from now: entire North Korean brigade defects to Ukraine in exchange for extra helpings of borscht

[-] Catma@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Shit they will probably defect for a regular serving of Borscht

[-] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago
[-] Matriks404@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah, they defect and they get theirs entire families moved to concentration camps... if they even get that far.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

That is likely the only way they don't all just walk away.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Borscht is fucking amazing, and I would defect to Ukraine for regular servings of it.

Not really, but I do love well-made borscht.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

🤔

I mean I don't want them to fight, but I'm pretty sure they're not safe home either.

[-] ___@l.djw.li 22 points 4 months ago

Update: South Korea says it will send actual, meaningful numbers of troops into Pyongyang within thirty-one days, bringing a formal end to conflict on the Korean Peninsula.

/s but you know they’re thinking about it.

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 9 points 4 months ago

Doesn't NK have one of the biggest standing armies in the world? I figured they could toss some troops into the blender and not care.

Also doesn't NK have a nuke? They'd definitely detonate one if they were invaded.

[-] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 4 months ago

do they have a nuke that works?

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Only when crashing into the ocean, thousands of miles short of its target

Edit: seriously, though, it’s pretty clear that they can build nuclear warheads (how many and what size is unclear), but their problem is getting the bomb to its target.

Rocketry is hard. It’s uber-expensive, and it requires a great deal of trial-and-error. I wouldn’t be surprised if they had gotten data, etc, from Russia and China like some guidance (or even rocket plans), but NK’s best physicists and aerospace engineers are both: not that great, and working entirely alone with a budget that is a minuscule fraction of anyone else who has tried this.

They’ve been trying to launch an ICBM successfully for almost 2 decades. They haven’t had much success yet.

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 2 points 4 months ago

Only one way to find out!

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago

I do believe their nuke works. I do not believe their delivery system works.

[-] Seraph@fedia.io 1 points 4 months ago

I do feel guilty but that is what I wish would happen. Mostly for the sake of the people of NK. But some people would die on both sides...

[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

The Ukrainians should just fire back with delicious food and free visas for defectors.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You joke, but i bet that it would be at least somewhat effective.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Does this count as a world war yet?

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Its possible the keg is done being packed and we're watching the fuse dwindle

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Do we know the locations of all Austro-Hungarian princes?

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

My bets have been on Taiwan being the flashpoint for well over a year now. Standing firm.

And my bet is and has been "before Christmas of 2024."

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Especially if there's "voting irregularities" or Trump wins outright. The Chinese would definitely take advantage of the confusion.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I thought about that for a long time, and, honestly, it seems that Russia may have stolen China’s thunder there by invading Ukraine. As a result, the whole world (mostly) super-hates and has united against Russia with untold billions of weapons and aid to Ukraine.

What’s China to think of their Taiwan plan, now? Well, I think it’s obvious by watching what they’re doing, what they’ve been doing.

Although they’ve become more aggressive in the South China Sea, what with building all their fake islands and atolls in order to claim some sovereignty to the waters. But most of what they’re doing merely amounts to harassment and bullying of surrounding nations. And while there’s been a good amount of somewhat-incendiary talk re: China’s intentions towards Taiwan, they’ve actually done very little to accomplish that goal, as of late. They’re being careful, weighing their options, and proceeding slowly but surely.

Will Taiwan become the next place invaded? A new flashpoint? I don’t think so, or, at least, not for a while. The Ukraine War, Russia’s almost-collapsed economy, and their need for aid of all kinds has put China into an uncomfortable position, and they seem to be reprioritizing. Also, Taiwan has had a defense buildup for several years, and they’re far more capable of defending themselves than before.

If China makes any serious move against Taiwan, IMO, it will be a while from now.

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[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I’m still waiting for a star war.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

They will die horribly. This is a way for North Korea to purge people. It's fucking disgusting.

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

That, or depending on how mistreated they were in North Korea, the soldiers surrender immediately because I'd have to assume Ukrainian prisons/jails/whatever are nowhere near as bad as just living in North Korea.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I believe this is a possibility, esp. considering how openly Ukraine will accept surrenders/defectors. Russia may be a shithole for a lot of people, but Ukraine doesn’t have a huge amount of benefit to offer most Russians (to surrender/defect) compared to North Koreans. Ya, know, aside from the freedom from chattel military slavery… but most in NK have it much worse than Russians, so the appeal would be greater.

[-] Drusas@kbin.run 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Their military is not what North Korea wants to purge. That's where they actually bother to send food.

[-] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Putler running low on cannon fodder?

[-] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Oh cool, a bunch of soldiers whos only military experience is goose stepping in front of their glorious leader and filling up balloons with shit to float over South Korea...

They're the global equivalent of the stereotypical trenchcoat wearing, wannabe-nazi bullies that leave flaming bags of shit on people's doorsteps and couldnt spraypaint a swastika if they had a gun to their head.

I hope Kim rations them extra pants, cause given their track record, they're going to be filling up more than balloons.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I wonder how many just up and desert.

[-] Feliskatos@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

If we have a world war, would they tell us?

By Dawn's Early Light

[-] Drusas@kbin.run 4 points 4 months ago

The military treaty states: “In the event that any one of the two sides is put in a state of war by an armed invasion from an individual state or several states, the other side shall provide military and other assistance with all means in its possession without delay.”

Okay. And that hasn't happened.

[-] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Here's my prediction:

Russia send the NK troops forwards in human waves, mostly under armed with all of the rusty waves. The NK troops surrender when given the chance. Russia waits for the surrendering NK troops to get the Ukrainian troops out of cover and then opens up with artillery and FPV drones on both the Ukrainian troops and NK defectors.

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago
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