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[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 122 points 4 months ago

Biden already has those codes. If I look at where we started with Trump and where we ended up, and then where Biden picked up and where we ended up, my choice clearly becomes Biden. Trump went from "grab em by the pussy" to Covid to breaking a bunch of laws to an insurrection. Biden cleaned up Trump's mess and avoided a complete imminent global financial collapse. All things considered, I'd rather see Biden over Trump and it's too late to try to swap out Biden.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

But have you considered that he didn't change military policy on Isreal?

That should be the one and only issue you base your vote on, according to a scary amount of people around here.

Edit: See? Here they are, saying Trump and Biden are the same. It's kinda wild to watch.

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Different people have different priorities. I live in eastern EU. The idea of the US dropping all support for Ukraine is pretty damn scary to me. I obviously can't vote in the US election, but I will happily support Biden from across the pond due to that one issue.

To a Palestinian? Yeah, I understand they don't really care about anything outside the direct issues affecting their people so they'd be anti-Biden.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

I get why they don't like Biden. But Trump has openly said that Israel should escalate the attacks and finish off the Palestinians.

Biden is ignoring genocide. Trump is actively encouraging it.

[-] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago

I live in Norway and feel the same way. However I will point out that trump is pro Israel and doesn't like Muslims. He even wanted to move the American embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He did move the embassy to Jerusalem. It probably helped escalate the tensions that led to the attack and then war.

It makes me skeptical that much of the anti-Biden rhetoric around Israel/Palestine is either IDF/Russian/Iranian trolls or just terminally online edgelords who haven’t got a clue about the realities of a US election. Namely that letting Biden lose will be much worse for everyone, Palestinians especially.

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[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 64 points 4 months ago

Can we all agree that since we have an age-minimum of 35, then we should have an age-maximum tied to, say, retirement age?

The argument is simple: nobody is in their prime past retirement age. Nobody. And this by default suggests we guaranteed have better options to run the presidency than some geriatric seniors.

[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

Retirement age?? They're already making retirement infeasible.

Perhaps to cut off just this type of talk /s

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

True... I shouldn't give them more cause to raise or eliminate it. How's 65 as a hard cap?

[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Perfect. They'll be 69 when their term ends and then they can go do something else.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Nice.

[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

But then, how do have the oldest, whitest person in charge?

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[-] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 56 points 4 months ago

IDC how old they, I care how competent they are.

Theres plenty of incompetent middle aged and young people as well, letstry not to elect any of them, k?

[-] MyOneEyedWilly@real.lemmy.fan 16 points 4 months ago

Exactly this, I’d rather someone near me drive their car at 65mph, than drive next to someone who’s a cocaine addict going over 85mph on the freeway.

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

I think you're on to something. We can probably solve most of the problems Biden has in the public discourse by giving him some cocaine.

[-] sleen@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 months ago

Correct, it's about competency. Age is not indicative of one's competency, just a mere suggestion - no matter if the person is young or old.

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[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 38 points 4 months ago

Well the good news is that if Biden wins all the names being tossed around for 28 are in their 40s or 50s at the oldest.

I'm crossing my fingers for Whitmer personally.

Bad news is that if Trump wins, they'll all probably be in prison by then.

Vote.

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[-] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 31 points 4 months ago

Friendly reminder that only one of them is unstable enough to use them.

[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

Don't care. I am voting against Project 2025 and for the guy that has an effective and good group around him...not the useful idiot that has to get a new group of people given to him by his handers because the last group is all in prison...

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[-] tabularasa@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 months ago

#StopTheGerontocracy

[-] myusernameis@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago

#FuckThePalePaleoPatriarchy

[-] SleezyDizasta@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Everybody is tired of these dinosaurs. I don't know anybody conservative or liberal who's thrilled about either candidate.

As far as this election goes, my thought process goes like this.

Biden: Oh my God, NO! He's terrible!

Trump: Oh my God, NO! He's terrible! x100

Therefore I'll be voting for Biden.

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 10 points 4 months ago

Is this more 'both sides the same' crappola? Sure sounds like that.

[-] cbarrick@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago

The sides are definitely not the same. One side is a fascist, a rapist, and a felon; the other side has trouble being coherent after 6pm.

They're not the same, and I know who I'm voting for (not the fascist). But damn do I wish we had some better choices.

[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

I'm happy enough to vote for the Biden administration. Whether or not Biden is actually leading the charge himself doesn't really matter to me, it's what they have accomplished in the past 4 years that I actually like (with the obvious exception of Gaza).

To be clear, I'm not indifferent on the first 4 years of Biden, I actively like it and wish for it to continue if more aggressive reform isn't on the table, which it isn't, nor would I expect it to be.

That said, the debate validated the biggest concerns about Biden. I have faith that his administration would keep up the good work if Biden is too feeble to run the show himself. But it's shitty optics, and I don't blame people for being alarmed. Especially since Harris isn't very popular, nor do I fully trust her not to hold the reigns too tightly if they're passed to her.

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[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 13 points 4 months ago

I don't think this is. It's not wrong if it's true. In this case it's very true.

Now if you said both Biden and Trump committed the same amount of crimes. That would be doing the both sides thing.

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[-] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

You can be "sick of old men" all you like OP, but are you "sick of democracy, eager to embrace dictatorship?"

[-] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

Biden is losing in the polls to trump. If he continues to run we will have Trump again. I'm scared shirtless. I wish the democratic party would quit gambling with our democracy and take the fascist threat seriously.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

They are taking the threat seriously. The problem is who they consider the threat. Democrats don't see fascists as a threat to them, and do see progressives as a threat.

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Which is exactly how Hitler came to power too, the middle chose right because they were more scared of left.

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Doing away with First Past The Post voting in favor of a more representative electoral system (such as but not limited to Ranked Choice voting) will Introduce competition into the electoral process.

This will increase the quality of candidates across the political spectrum. Yes, this would even help the Republicans pick less insane candidates.

Source

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