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If only there were some sort of process we could have engaged in to select a candidate people actually want to vote for.
in 2016, SCOTUS said we can't have that, either, after we picked the wrong candidate.
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Joe Biden would have won the primary. I don't really think it would have even been close.
They never had a debate even though there were a couple candidates running. Biden has been mentally troubled for the last 9 months or so. It was party hubris that led to this crisis.
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Is this supposed to be some sort of revelation? She didn't get anywhere in the 2020 primary. No one has any genuine enthusiasm for her. It makes no sense that she was VP in the first place.
Sure it does. The Vice President is an almost useless job.
The VP has two tasks under the constitution: Emcee the senate, and be the President's understudy. It's a position that only has power if there's a tie in the senate, the VP gets to cast a tie breaking vote. It's not uncommon to stick a candidate who has some momentum but the party doesn't like there to get them out of the way. Look up Teddy Roosevelt's career to see how foolproof that plan is.
She didn't have any momentum though in 2020. Her campaign was basically dead after Tulsi Gabbard shut her down at the Democratic debates in 2019, she was pretty much done after that until Biden picked her up on the ticket.
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Biden didn't get anywhere in the 2008 primary either.
Blame James Carville for Biden.
Bernie was gonna take it in 2020 so Carville convinced Clyburn to endorse Biden in South Carolina, flat out stating that he did not care if there was electoral interest past the current election.
I want AOC on the ticket.
We need her in the legislature. Presidents fuck off after 4-8 years, we can't spend one of our progressives so early
She's too young unfortunately.
Edit: she turns 35 in October so she's just barely old enough. She's 34 right now though so I don't think I deserved that downvote.
She turns 35 this year before the election. She's eligible.
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Y'all overlooking that she's saying it has to be Harris. All the campaign funds and endorsements don't leave the campaign if Biden steps down and the baton is passed to the VP. Not true if we make this an open primary or even if we all agreed on someone else.
Fucking hell, of course it would be Pelosi who is floating the most risky option: an open primary. If Nancy is on board and AOC is not, you know it's probably bad: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/19/pelosi-support-open-nomination-biden-drop-out-00169893
She added that, “I'm in these rooms, I see what they say... a lot of them are not just interested in removing the president, they are interested in removing the whole ticket."
Do it.
And replace them with who?
I don't see an "Obama" waiting in the wings this time around...
What idiot Democratic politician would say right now that they want to be the next candidate? If Biden isn't replaced, that's a carreer ending move.
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We all want Sanders
Mark Kelly would be an excellent candidate. His twin brother, Scott, doesn't have the political background for VP, but definitely belongs in the cabinet. Maybe Chief of Staff; maybe Sec Def.
Mark Kelly is the first proposed candidate that doesn't make me immediately "meh".
Do the optics of appointing your brother to a cabinet position really make sense though? I think there's plenty of aversion to the concept of yet another American political dynasty
Wake me up when they make up their mind. I don't care who it is.
I saw this quote earlier related to this;
“To not choose her is a slap in the face to Black women,” said Melanie Campbell, chairwoman of the Power of the Ballot Action Fund, an advocacy organization focused on Black voter engagement. “You are saying to Black women that what we represent is not good enough — not only to stay with the man we voted for, but the woman that most of us advocated for, to be the vice president. You take her down, then you lose the Black women’s vote.”
Hmm do we think this is a common thought among black women?
Yeah... I would put a lot more stock in that quote if Kamala Harris' poll numbers among Black women weren't relatively low for a Democrat. I'm sure some people will be upset, but if she is picked I know a lot of people will consider that a slap in the face in another way. Polls have shown for a long time that she's unpopular in a way that has nothing to do with race or gender. It would be handing the election to Trump almost as certainly as running Biden.
This looks like it's from the exact same playbook as, "There's a special place in hell for women who don't vote for women," back when the DNC was forcing Hillary Clinton on us over Bernie.
BERNIE \ FAIN FOR THE DEMOCRATIC WORKERS PARTY
Fain / Bernie. I love Sanders; I was a delegate for him in 2016. We don't need another octagenarian president. He would agree.
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That's just idiotic. This has absolutely nothing to do with her being black or a woman. She's just not well liked and that can happen regardless of her sex or skin color.
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