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Walmart cuts starting hourly pay for some workers (www.detroitnews.com)

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The retailer says the change will create consistency in starting hourly pay across individual stores.

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[-] Naatan@lemmy.one 66 points 1 year ago

“Consistent starting pay results in consistent staffing and better customer service while also creating new opportunities for associates to gain new skills from experience across the store and lay the groundwork for their career regardless of where they start,”

Ok miss PR person. Please explain your rationale cause that shit makes no sense.

[-] GregoryTheGreat@programming.dev 29 points 1 year ago

I worked somewhere that was killing off their QA department and in a company wide meeting explained it by saying “when you go to a store a pick up a part, you expect it to have gone through QA” Lots of head scratching that day. They still don’t QA their products. They just ship them and let the customers complain if something is wrong.

[-] ShunkW@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I work in software dev. My old job laid off our entire QA team at once and presented it as an opportunity to learn doing testing as a developer.

[-] ares35@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

twice the work, half the pay per job. woohoo!

[-] ShunkW@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Exactly. So glad I left there.

[-] GregoryTheGreat@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

Bugs are cheaper to just deal with as they pop up….until they aren’t.

[-] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I've seen this happen too. It's sort of a double edged sword - devs need to take testing seriously and have coverage metrics. However, this doesn't negate the need for QA particularly in software that has a human experience associated with it. Writing code and having it work correctly doesn't mean that the user experience itself will be correct. For whatever reason, executives don't understand this and software gets shipped with more bugs than ever because there's little to no QA.

[-] ShunkW@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah. We wrote unit tests and integration tests, but we needed ui tests, which none of us were strong in at the time. One bug I remember fondly, it was possible to abuse debounce basically to submit bad info by switching an input after hitting submit. This happened more than you would expect. Took us forever to figure it out till we were able to get a UI tester from another team to figure it out. The human element is super useful in testing

[-] ShunkW@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Not for my old app that had to be audited 6 times a year lol. Any data defect had to be explained in a one page summary. Now imagine you regularly have ~30k concurrent users. The wrong bug means tons of paperwork that brings us all out of development mode to write and support.

[-] Pistcow@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reminds me when we had three companies merging at the same time and the bosses brought everyone in to tell the grunts and sales people that no one will be losing jobs. I ask, "You know when you move in with someone and you have to get rid of a set of dishes. Do you think you need three sets of dishes?" Yeah, so there were tons of lay offs.

[-] GregoryTheGreat@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

Why even lie about it. Anyone smart enough to be worth something at the company is also smart enough to know better. You’ll lose everyone you can’t afford to lose.

[-] ares35@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

probably went something like this: someone at a low paying store complained about the store 4 miles down the road paying more. so they're addressing that 'issue'.

[-] theodewere@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago

meanwhile, record profits and unprecedented wealth for one family

[-] Smite6645@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 year ago

One of the top employers whose employees use public assistance like food stamps cutting starting wages? This timeline sucks.

[-] theodewere@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

they hate their customers just as much as their employees, those stores are nasty

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Walmart profits are subsidized by your tax dollars

[-] bobman@unilem.org 28 points 1 year ago

Weird how that consistency can't be created by raising wages.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

When you didn't think they could be more evil:

[-] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Oh quit being so obtuse. They only generated 143 billion dollars in profit last year. How can they be expected to pay their employees a living wage like that??

[-] drdabbles@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

After all, if they took 140 of that billion and divided it among their 2.1 million global retail employees, that'd only be 66,666 each with a 1.4 million left over. Hardly worth doing, obviously. After all, what will the shareholders say??

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So they could increase all wages at or below of $10 to $43 and still get bonuses.

God don't you love America?

[-] spriteblood@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah plus they have over 2 million associates per their website. Even if they COULD give everybody a raise, that's only like $70,000 per person.

[-] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 year ago

The only cutting that Walmart needs is senior executives' necks. With a guillotine.

[-] Wookie@artemis.camp 4 points 1 year ago

Then insurance company execs

[-] ares35@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

don't forget those at the top at giant huge telcos and internet providers.

[-] Icalasari@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Let's just do it to all the rich and their cronies

[-] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm not saying you aren't right, but maybe we should just financially decapitate them? That way we aren't killing people wholesale and then we can send a message as well as distribute some wealth with sanity bereft of toxic capitalism.

Maybe a flat tax rate with no deductions for business or corporate income, no personal income tax, top paid income tied to the lowest paid, and 90% of backend profits distributed to employees based on a percentage of payroll expense for the fiscal year?

I mean it might take a falling blade to get there, but the best omelettes need a few broken eggs.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm actually surprised they were paying what they pay. My nephew got hired to move carts around for $19 an hour. Sure, it's part-time, but that's a crazy starting wage for a big box store in Indiana.

Edit: Before you think I'm pro-Walmart, fuck Walmart. I hope every store closes down and the Waltons go bankrupt.

Edit 2: Also, minimum wage should be $21 an hour everywhere, so it's only a crazy starting wage because Indiana is a fucked up red state.

[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I haven’t shopped at Walmart in years. Their stores are truly shit.

[-] bobman@unilem.org 0 points 1 year ago

Best deals around.

I personally think there's not much variation in grocery stores if they have the products I want.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I'm surprised they had room to cut without going below minimum wage.

[-] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Remember, they're not anti-union, but they're not neutral either.

EDIT: Since people seem to be missing the joke here, this is a common line in anti-union propaganda training videos.

[-] timetravelingnoodles@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They literally got rid of the deli meats counter because they voted to unionize. They are completely anti union

[-] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

For anyone who doesn't know, I was quoting their union-busting videos.

Amazon and Lowe's use that same line.

[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Anyone who thinks they're not anti union isn't paying attention.

[-] ares35@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

the in-store butchers and bakery, too, iirc.

[-] Icalasari@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I worked for a Wal-Mart once. They literally have anti union propaganda in their training material

[-] HorseWithNoName@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Also Ross. They're a gross company that treats their workers like shit. When you start working there they give you pamphlets on how to sign up for social services like food stamps. They also have one of those employee funds, where everyone pays into it every month and if someone has an emergency they can use money from it. Maybe if they paid their employees a livable wage they wouldn't need makeshift insurance funded by their impoverished workers. So fucked up.

[-] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I would've expected you to get the joke then.

[-] Pat12@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I once listened to someone who managed a walmart-esque store complain how to get their cashiers who earned slightly above minimum wage to go above and beyond their required duties

[-] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Not like that!

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