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A confession (slrpnk.net)

Guys, as the person who started no lawns on Reddit (and here) my yard is a disaster lol. I work outside all day and the last thing I want to do when I get home is yard work. That being said, I removed a bunch of invasives from my yard Monday and I'm working on a plan to tackle a corner of my yard the way I've always wanted to in NoLawns style with native plants. I'm always open to suggestions for the Chicago area!

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[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Haha my yard is also a mess although that doesn’t bother me. It’s got lots of little nooks and crannies for critters to hide, lots of leaf litter, multiple stories of vegetation. It’s hands off but I plant something back there once or twice a year. I get a fair amount of wildlife back there, including forest-obligate bird species so even though few people would call it beautiful, I think I’m doing OK with it.

Maybe we should have a no-judgement day or thread so people can post their yards without worrying how close they are to the platonic ideal of a perfect native plant garden.

[-] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 months ago

That's a great idea! I work 10 hour days with an hour commute each way. I definitely pay someone to deal with my yard lmao

[-] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Ever since i heard of this concept i was very interested. Love the idea of planting something other than grass that takes less or no water. I think thats awesome so thanks for making these communities!

As for your lawn, we all get busy man. Stuff falls through the cracks. Dishes dont get done, laundry goes unfolded and some shrubs get a bit too long but thats ok.

[-] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 months ago

Haha isn't that the truth?

[-] fireweed@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

I'm in the PNW so we don't have a lot of overlap in native species, however I can recommend selfheal. Selfheal is a great ground cover that's native to much of the US (including Cook Co). If you let it grow it gets to be about a foot high, but you can also mow it and it'll stay more grass height. It produces little purple flowers and is evergreen in my area (but probably not yours). I haven't had any luck getting it to self propagate or germinate from seeds I've spread in the yard, but the plants I've germinated in pots (super easy) and planted in the ground have established and are still doing great years later. In other words, you can grow in amongst grass ala clover, or let it grow as a standalone plant.

But I guess that leads me to my main question, which is do you want to forego having a "lawn" entirely, or do you still want an area that can support foot traffic, but populated with lawn-substitute plants (eg native grasses and grass-companions like clover and selfheal)?

[-] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 months ago

Ohh I'll have to do some research on that that's awesome. My end goal (not my current short term goal) is for my front yard to be a beautiful collection of native plants with intentional looking flower beds with a path from the sidewalk to the door and a path from the driveway to the side gate.

I haven't thought far enough to know what type of path I want to do or anything like that yet. I currently have one flower bed left from the previous owner that I just cleared. I know I'm going to have more weeds before the season is over but I'm planning on starting some planting next spring.

I keep meaning to message the reddit mod group chat because the one lives very close to me and the other 2 actually have degrees in this stuff haha. I like that I started this and I'll the least qualified 😂

[-] fireweed@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

A great resource to get you started on native/pollinator plants is Xerces society. They have two plant guides for your area: https://xerces.org/publications/plant-lists/monarch-nectar-plants-midwest and https://xerces.org/publications/plant-lists/native-plants-for-pollinators-and-beneficial-insects-midwest. You can cross-reference these guides with the USDA Plants database (linked above) which has county-level data (zoom way in on the map) if you only want to plant species native to your county.

It can be difficult to find some native plant species at nurseries, in which case I source seeds online and plant those instead. Sometimes they don't work out (poor germination) but seeds are so much cheaper than buying plant starts so it's still more frugal even if half of the species you buy are unable to germinate. It's best to source seed as locally as possible (a company based in Chicagoland, or at least WI, IL, or IN).

[-] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You're wonderful, thank you!

Making a mental note to add this to the wiki too lol

[-] fireweed@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

If you do, the full Xerces plant lists database (all US regions) is here https://xerces.org/publications/plant-lists

And the plants database is here https://plants.usda.gov/home

[-] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I guess it depends on where you are in Chicagoland, but if possible, you could burn your lawn. Much of the Chicago area should be a burr oak savanna . It's a fire-adapted prairie ecosystem. You could buy seed, but honestly, there's plenty of ways to get seed from native plants living in local ditches, waysides, and parks.

[-] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah I think if I just start looking up natives and identifying them that could make for a fun hobby too as well as collecting seeds.

[-] dumples@midwest.social 3 points 3 months ago

Our lawn was a complete mess when we got it and was full of dead grass when we bought it a few years ago. We are up here in Minnesota so a little colder than Chicago land but similar climate/ Here is what we have done to upgrade it to more "no lawn". First off is mow less and remove all fertilizers which I assume you have already done. We have been putting down tons of White Dutch Clover in both the early spring and fall which has just started to bloom this year. We have also been putting down Self Heal and Creeping Thyme which we got from Flawn which we put down over the winter. Not sure what is coming up from that yet. We are going to do their English Daisy in our side lawn.

We have been more focused on our garden which we are planting both natives, edibles and medicinal perennial plants. That has been bringing in bees and other valuable plants. I would recommend Prairie Moon for natives for both research and to purchase seeds. We cut down some trees between our fence and alleyway and put down native last fall. We got some blooms this year but most won't come until next year. The whole thing is a process since we are dealing growing things. The goal is a stable ecosystem which means things will change every year with plants coming and going as their niches get filled and created.

[-] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago
[-] dumples@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago

Its been a labor of love over the last few years but we still have lots to go. Creeping Charlie is taking over lots of lawn and we just kind of let it for now. What I have found is that to get it done is a focus on a few weeks of concentrated effort a few times per year. Early spring when the ground is around 50 degrees you can go crazy with spreading clover and letting it grow and watering when needed and then again in the fall. Direct sowing native seeds in the late fall is easy because you shouldn't dig them in but rather just lay them on the soil. We have lots that haven't come up but also I keep seeing things I thought were dead and gone coming back. Just got to be open to see what comes up

[-] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago
[-] Hello_there@fedia.io 2 points 3 months ago

Buy a shitload of native groundcover seed and till the ground and mix it all in?

[-] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago

I'd have to find it locally though. Looking at some of the "native seed" sites, they're not all natives.

[-] Hello_there@fedia.io 2 points 3 months ago

Google says https://www.chicagobungalow.org/post/native-plants-2024

Seems like a bunch of places to start off by calling

[-] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago

This is a great resource thank you so much!

[-] dumples@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago

https://www.prairiemoon.com/ has some good natives and you can buy full plants if you like. You can sort by geographic region, garden zone, bloom time etc.

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