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submitted 3 months ago by octopus_ink@lemmy.ml to c/politics@lemmy.world

Lots more good stuff with citations in the article, but this bit really ties it all together:

 

The right-wing obsession over racial demographics becomes obvious in the “pro-natalism” movement, which advocates for conservatives to have more children to take control of society. The mission of the movement is “to build an army of like-minded people, starting with their own children, who will reject a whole host of changes wrought by liberal democracy,” according to a fascinating recent story in Politico.

For the right wing, pro-natalism means looking for every possible means to increase the white percentage of the nation’s population. Through this lens, it’s not hard to see why Republicans remain virulently anti-immigration and strictly opposed to abortion.

Those two issues may appear unrelated, but in fact Republican positions on both stem at least in part from white demographic fears. Republicans want to halt the rise in the nonwhite population by curbing immigration. At the same time, they hope their abortion bans will boost domestic birth rates — staving off white demographic decline. They also want to ban contraceptives and no-fault divorce, forcing women to stay in marriages and have more children.

The Republican Party’s white nationalism is often justified in religious terms, since much of this agenda designed to enhance white power stems from the party’s Christian fundamentalist base. Along with Protestant evangelicals, the Republican religious base now includes fundamentalist Catholics, who stridently oppose abortion.

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[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 111 points 3 months ago

Racism is the only reason why the entire Republican party is so popular

[-] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 97 points 3 months ago

LBJ nailed how the Republican party gets poor people to vote against their financial interests. It’s all hatred of the other (black people, women, gays…etc)

If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 months ago

I firmly believe that every person should have that printed on a card in their pocket, and refer to it every time Trump or a Republican says something.

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[-] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

We cannot allow them to take the term “pro-natalist” because it allows them to paint anybody who disagrees as “anti.“ Just like they can claim anybody who isn’t “pro life” is “anti-life.“ People need to stop giving them these PR wins.

“We’re for family values” = I am against families

“We’re for law and order” = I am against it

It forces us non-weirdos to introduce the nuance of what their terms actually mean which is a losing prospect.

[-] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Interesting thought. Do you have suggestions on how to counter nationalists seizing the label "pro-natalist"?

[-] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Eugenicists, replacement theory advocates. Or just settle for bigots

We are anti-eugenics

[-] atomicorange@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

You can use an alternative term like “anti-choice” while reporting on them. You can also insist on defining the term whenever you use it. “Pro- natalists, who believe that unwilling women should be forced to give birth”, something like that.

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[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 3 months ago

The Republican Party’s white nationalism is often justified in religious terms, since much of this agenda designed to enhance white power stems from the party’s Christian fundamentalist base.

Wait til they learn that Jesus wasn't white

[-] ours@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

And nothing says "love thy neighbor" like racial supremacism.

Their white supremacist, conservative, hateful, supply-side Jesus is weird. I'm an atheist but I much prefer the hippie, anti-materialist, socialist, anti-establishment Jesus I was grew up hearing about.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

Heh. 😀

They think an election was stolen and that climate change and covid are hoaxes, so I'm doubtful they are capable of believing that no matter what evidence was provided.

When someone believes those things, it's probably not even the work of their conscious mind to just dismiss it out of hand when someone tells them Jesus wasn't white.

[-] dogsnest@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago

Trump's helicopter story is a different black dude:

“Willie is the short Black guy living in San Francisco,” Holden said. “I’m a tall Black guy living in Los Angeles.

“I guess we all look alike,” Holden told POLITICO, letting out a loud laugh.

[-] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Trump’s absolutely losing it, and we’re seeing his flailing and failing brain on display more everyday.

My theory on why he thinks Kamala “was Indian” and “turned Black one day” is that he’s fully confused Nikki Haley and Kamala Harris in his brain, and has conflated the two into one person.

[-] RozhkiNozhki@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

And that's even scarier because we'll get rabid pro-life Vance who's going to wage a literal war on women and childless.

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

His wife looks like he ate her life force

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Oh actually yeah maybe. Or JD Vance's wife who is also Indian.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

So, what color is Trump? White or orange? He needs to make up his mind. I'm confused.

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Racism is a reason because the working class, or useful idiots from other classes, are abused and exploited by robber barons who need a scapegoat and distraction.

Most republican policies have been and continue to be hostile towards the working class. So what’s a convenient way to distract from that? Oh hey, that other poor fuck exactly like you is the reason I am stealing from you.

There’s no war but class war.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 months ago

It's always "Immigrants stole your job" and never "The CEO hired an immigrant instead of you".

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

More like, the ceo doesn’t pay a living wage to immigrants or non immigrants alike. Immigrants are not necessarily cheaper, fyi. American workers need to unionize, it’s ridiculous that there aren’t more unions.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

and the politician gave them a special visa for it that the employer can boot them out with for any reason, so they can treat them worse and pay them less

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

He gave someone for people to hate.

[-] MentallyExhausted@reddthat.com 11 points 3 months ago

Transphobia is more publicly visible in his base.

[-] nickiwest@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

That's because many of them are old enough to remember a time when you were supposed to be quiet about your racism because you knew the rest of society would shame you for it.

Unfortunately, America has never reached the point where a majority of people felt shame about their transphobia, so in their minds it's okay to be more open about that.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

That's a fair point!

[-] kikutwo@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

That and there is just a huge amount of stupid lemmings that are dumb as rocks.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 months ago

Everyone including the media paint a picture that's it's just Trump .... it's just his followers ... it's just a political party ....

None of what they are doing or saying would be possible without the full support and financing of very wealthy and rich elites.... and none of it would be possible without the support and sometimes encouragement, acceptance and justification of a very pliable media, who are all owned by the same wealthy and rich elites.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

How's the saying go? "There's no war but class war?"

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

We reject all war except for class war is the sentiment.

[-] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Huh, you don’t say. Racist?

/s (just in case)

[-] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago

Why does he insist on wearing such comically long ties?

[-] kamenlady@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Iirc long ties are supposed to make the wearer look slimmer, elongated, slinky or swift.

But the red makes it stick out too much, turning the intended positive effect into void.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

His suits are comically large as well. Almost like he's stuck in the past.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

he is, in more ways than one

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago

I wonder how well this even works. I've seen a lot of folks who grew up in weird cults who rejected the whole thing.

[-] De_Narm@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Generally speaking, you're more likely to stay within a cult your were born in than joining one you weren't. Having as many children as possible is cult founding 101.

[-] nickiwest@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

But for every one of them, how many of their peers are still in it? I'm the only one from my generation who got out of my terrible religious upbringing.

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[-] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

He stoked the flames of racism because Obama won the election and built up a nice little cult out of that. Dude got clowned by Obama at a white house correspondence dinner and it hurt is feewings

[-] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

If they want to stop non-whites from becoming the majority, then why oppose abortion and birth control? All the non-white people already here will have more kids too. Do they not understand that?

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

I think this every time it comes up. But maga logic never really works, there's no point in looking for consistency.

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[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

"Pro-natalism" huh? Gee, I wonder where they got that idea from... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn

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