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[-] thejml@lemm.ee 98 points 10 months ago

I thought this was fake or a bad result or something, but totally just duplicated it. Wow.

If you read the block of text…. It doesn’t make sense either.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 68 points 10 months ago

I expect if you follow the references you'd find one of them to be one of those "if Earth was a grain of sand" analogies.

People like laughing at AI but usually these silly-sounding answers accurately reflect the information the search returned.

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago

It's in the quote that they scaled it.

The point is that the entire alleged value is the ability to parse the reading material and extract the key points, but because it doesn't resemble intelligence in any way, it isn't actually capable of meaningfully doing so.

Yes, not being able to distinguish between the real answer and a "banana for scale" analogy is a big problem that shows how fucking useless the technology is.

[-] btaf45@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

It’s in the quote that they scaled it.

Yes but they supposedly scaled it to "one meter per meter". A "scale where the distance from the Sun to Earth is 150 million km" is the actual distance.

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[-] gaterush@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

I just tried and got "about 40,000 billion kilometers". Also the references are completely different from the ones in the post, so I guess it was a ranking issue

AI is just too unpredictable, hard to know what's accurate and you end up doing the work yourself anyways

[-] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 10 months ago

the loaded die at the end that chooses one of the llm's answers happened to land on a good word

[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 65 points 10 months ago

A great deal of energy, hardware and software went into providing that wrong answer.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

We should leave AI to the realm of producing fringe/impossible porn, like it was meant for and like what everyone actually wants from it. All this "search engine" stuff is just cover like when you buy some non-lube products like groceries along with the tube of astroglide at 1:00 AM.

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[-] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago
[-] mercano@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago

You may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist’s, but that’s just peanuts to space.

[-] A_A@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

The hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy, Chapter 8.
(...)
”Space,” it says, ”is big. Really big. You just won’t believe how vastly hugely mindboggingly big it is. I mean you may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist, but that’s just peanuts to space. Listen . . . ” and so on.

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[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Space is small. You just won't believe how itsy, bitsy, mind-bogglingly tiny it is. I mean, you may think it's long way to the fridge, but that's just peanuts to space

[-] btaf45@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Space is small.

The diameter of the entire observable universe is not even a full ronnameter.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Like every tool, it has its uses...but they are not those being advertised. LLMs are great for things where mistakes don't detract from the result (or even add to it) like brainstorming, art, music, disinformation...all that good stuff.

[-] btaf45@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

That's what I think too. AI is mainly useful for things that don't have right or wrong answers.

Although this incorrect answers is obvious, what about all the times where an incorrect answer from AI is not obvious?

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[-] floral_toxicity@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago

That's a big fucking problem if true. Albeit a short lived problem.

[-] DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 38 points 10 months ago

Have you gone 13.6 km up there to verify it's not there?

[-] ulkesh@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

13.6km is 44,619ft.

So nearly every time one flies commercial, yes, since cruising altitude is between 30,000 and 40,000 feet. I think a large triple-star system would be quite visible at that point.

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[-] profdc9@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago

AI is statistically generated word salad.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Yah I'm so happy every major internet and tech company is deciding to deliberately power every system we use with random word salad generators, there's no chance will cause any problems.

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[-] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

In very next line, it says the distance is 4.37 lightyears away... which is also wrong, lol

For anyone wondering, the actual correct answer is about 4.25 lightyears or about 40 trillion kilometers.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago

These are all equally confusing. How many American football fields?

[-] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

In scientific terms? An absolute fuck-ton of football fields.

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[-] DLSantini@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago

Approximately 437,445,319,335,083 of those.

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[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

Relying on LLM for any facts without verifying is playing with fire.

[-] ulkesh@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I suspect there’s a quite-overlapping Venn diagram of people who rely on LLMs for their “facts” with people who believe the earth is flat and people who believe ancient aliens are real.

[-] lunarul@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

So really no excuse when the vogons come

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

There's no excuse anyway. The plans were very prominently displayed.

[-] Ixoid@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

On display? I finally found them in the bottom of a locked filling cabinet in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying "Beware of the leopard".

[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Forgive Bing. It’s American and doesn’t know the metric system.

[-] BlucifersVeinyAnus@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago

I’m burrrrning!

[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago
[-] BlucifersVeinyAnus@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago

Stargate is a documentary.

[-] Squibbles@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago

It's measuring the distance to your nearest copy of Sid Myers alpha centari

[-] Intheflsun@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Good golly, someone make some chocolate chip cookies, we're going to have to go and welcome them to the neighborhood. Damn rude no one said anything sooner.

[-] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 10 points 10 months ago

Hey, I have a half tank of gas, I think I will go check it out.

[-] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

It’s ~~126 miles to Chicago~~ 13.6 kilometers to Alpha Centauri, we’ve got a full tank of gas, half a pack off cigarettes, it’s dark, and we’re wearing sunglasses.

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[-] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

13.6 kilometers ought to be enough for anybody.

[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Well then, what are we waiting for? Let's go visit Alpha Centauri!

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 8 points 10 months ago

I have a copy of the Alpha Centauri game about 13.6 meters from me.

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[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Like, are we sure? Has someone actually checked?

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[-] yuki2501@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

When techbros said "you can type a question and the AI will answer", they seem to have forgotten that we expect the answers to be true and accurate.

And they seem to have forgotten that to do that, they actually need a database of facts.

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[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

That's why it's been so gosh darn hot.

[-] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

41.5 petameters.

Nobody using the metric system says "trillion kilometers"! 🌞

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[-] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 10 months ago

Yes, but it feels longer with all the traffic jams.

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