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Secret Russian Counter-Drone EW System Recovered by Ukraine in Kursk Region (www.kyivpost.com)

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[-] BlucifersVeinyAnus@sh.itjust.works 60 points 2 months ago

This system is considered one of the most advanced and secretive in Russia's defense arsenal. It works by emitting radio frequency (RF) interference disrupting the control signals between the drone and its operator, forcing it to either land or hover in place until it is brought down, or its battery fails.

Am I reading this wrong, or, are they in fact saying that Russia’s most advanced defensive technology is an rf jammer?

[-] Ordo_Bellatores@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Well compared to wood blocks and chicken wire cages, a simple RF hammer does seem pretty high tech ...

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Given the massive distance these drones fly, I think an RF jammer is the best they could come up with.

And it doesn't appear to be very effective judging by the footage of drone attacks.

[-] Ansis100@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Isn't an RF jammer basically the only defense against a drone? Apart from shooting it down?

[-] BlucifersVeinyAnus@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago

Laser bearing attack eagles are pretty standard in most modern warfare.

[-] Avg@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

I didn't think about that but I'm certain I've seen a video of an eagle trained to hunt drones.

[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Lol so they stuck a rf target on their tanks...

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 41 points 2 months ago

Ukrainian military analyst Oleksandr Kovalenko commented that he believes the Volnorez system’s capability to be overstated, describing it as practically useless. He argues that it has been deployed on the battlefield for a year without significantly impacting on the success of the Armed Forces of Ukraine’s (AFU) kamikaze drone attacks.

I know nothing about this guy's credentials, but this was my first thought. I have seen so many tanks getting destroyed by drones. Are these systems not getting deployed or do they not work?

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 22 points 2 months ago

Probably a bit of both. I'm sure Russia has been overstating how many operational systems they have. "Appear strong when you are weak", and all that. But claims and appearances only go so far.

[-] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

It would not surprise me if this is mostly a placebo to calm the nerves of the tank crew.

[-] greenskye@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

One tank has the real one. The rest are spray painted kitchenware

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

Shhh! That’s the secret!!

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 2 months ago

Presumably they don't post the ones where it works and the drone crashes

I suspect it is useless just because of the pace of technological development on the Ukraine side vs. the Russian side, but just the existence of some videos where the EW isn't working doesn't mean it's not working.

[-] lemming741@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Give the drone a few directional antennas and have it aim for the jammers

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Jammers are great, what HARM could they possibly cause

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago

Cancer. All ruzzians driving these tanks are going to be getting cancer.

[-] MartianSands@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

HARM is a category of weapon which seeks things like radar or jammers. They weren't suggesting that the jammers are literally harmless.

In unrelated news: the jammers are, in fact, harmless unless you're making a habit of riding on top of the tank. The radio energy isn't going to penetrate a significant thickness of conductive material, such as armour plating. Or unless you're the person being jammed, in which case they're a different category of harmful

[-] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

why would this cause cancer? isn't it non ionizing radiation?

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago

Ionization is not the only way RF can affect the body. You can generate plasma at low RF energy that is not ionizing. Yet the plasma is bad for you. So if you can generate plasma in vacuum with non ionizing RF, imagine what it can do to anything it can couple to.

[-] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

I was expecting this counter-drone system was destroyed by Ukrainian drones... but this is even better.

[-] realitista@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Wouldn't you not want to tell them you have one so that they keep wasting energy and manpower thinking it works?

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Or you tell them you have it and they immediately stop using it, even before you crack how it works.

[-] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Sounds like it doesn't really work though.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Look at that, a fantastic find! Even if Sudzha is retaken, the knowledge of Russian anti-drone tech is now revealed. And it's so stupid. Like, is Russia undergoing an active internal rebellion to help make things worse? Because it's hard to imagine any effort being so constantly countered - and so effectively!

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