I think depicting real intimacy in a healthy way in movies is actually an important counterbalance to pornography depicting only violence and degradation with none of the intimacy and none of the before/after.
Your take is my take, too.
Contrary to some Flanderizations of my takes that I've sometimes seen, I welcome sex scenes, nudity and all, in movies and shows where it fits the vibes and just goes well with what's going on (random example: the Antonio Bandaras Zorro movie sword fight foreplay scene was 
yes I have 
on speed dial) .
When it's just there because the people making the movie want to be hogs or want to feed hogs, it bothers me and it's a night and day difference. The fact that the trust fund chuds that made the Gambo show added a bunch of SV scenes that weren't in the books and SV'd additional characters that weren't SV'd in the books, all just on a whim, is an example of that kind of shit.
We don't put it in tv series enough except as a shock scene or to highlight weird social norms "Look NUDITY!" (GoT is a good example). I actually can't think of a single tv drama series where that kind of scene is explored as a useful addition to the show.
I agree with you for the most part; I just wanted to be generous and open to the idea even if it's usually just obligatory sensationalism (and often violent).
I'm just mentioning it because it would be interesting to see directors try to explore it in a way that actually works in series. The best examples I can think of are usually like teen coming of age stories or identity-discovery (a lot of gay shows) but usually it's a cut away after a lusty scene of ripping clothes off.
The best examples I can think of are usually like teen coming of age stories or identity-discovery (a lot of gay shows) but usually it's a cut away after a lusty scene of ripping clothes off.
Few things are more tiresome or tacky to me in mainline entertainment (where it isn't even the "prestige" obsession with SV) than the old "faces mash while thumping against wall" sudden jump cut, whether in the movie/show itself or in its formulaic trailer.
Rewatching true blood and tbh I'm more upset at all the unnecessary dialogue and plot that makers added to my softcore porn vampire show.
Main thing I remember about that show was Lafayette and Tara being the only 2 good characters and all the crackers sucking really badly, including the ones who literally sucked blood
Its funny because Tara was actually widely hated lol. I think there are other good characters (Pam mostly) but Lafayette is definitely the best.
Hahaha... But actually though I've never liked sex scenes in movies. Very awkward
it's something many filmakers attempt but very few do well, but there's kinds of stories that really benefit, even can't be told without it.
I respect that but it feels shoehorned in a lot of the time. Same way i feel about SA/SV in prestige TV. Every show apparently has to have it but so many do it poorly and it seems unnecessary
i benefit by embracing that most things just suck so i can't be particularly bothered when they do. ymmv 
Male lead didn't do any foreplay, completely understandable why she betrayed him in the end.
I demand MORE SEX SCENES and MORE FRONTAL NUDITY in all movies
I wanna see ERECT PENISES in my movies regardless of any "plot relevance"
you know like they used to put in European films before we imported American prudishness and and a deep disgust of the human body from there.
Erect penises are automatic NC-17 ratings (especially if it's a film not catered to cishet white men). Younaminini Parka bad country censorship 1957 quote here.
I will take the ring to mordor. I will make a movie where no one wears pants at any point, it has nothing to do with the plot, and everyone with a penis has an erection, in every shot, for no plot relevant reason except the mpaa can and should crawl in to a drainage pipe during a monsoon and put itself out of the world's misery.
ok so frodo has to take the cockring to morwhores where the evil Haurdon is
Lord of the G strings, staring Misty Mundae as Dildo Saggins i am not kidding it is a real softcore film.
we know when people are about to bang
[citation needed]
Me to half of the D&D players I've had to put up with.
JUST LET ME FADE TO BLACK, PERVERT! You're making the other players uncomfortable.
I used to tolerate the "I want to know how my 'charisma check' actually went!" creeps at my table. That was a mistake. It only got better for everyone else when strict fade to black policy was enforced.
No way, I cannot imagine sitting through another players ERP lol
Check out the x-card and fade to black concepts.
nothing will make me drop a tv show faster than having a sex scene in the first episode. it's even worse when there is dialog during the deed which is important to the plot, so you can't skip and have to at least listen to it all. hate it in books too, like my dude you don't need to spend 5 pages describing the shape of a womans breasts, quit jerking off while you're writing your damn book smfh
nothing will make me drop a tv show faster than having a sex scene in the first episode.
Maybe I missed some grand storytelling and all that, but I'm the same way if a P R E S T I G E T V show has to show how cool and edgy and "mature" it is by having some gory torture scene or SV within the first five minutes of the show's start. I'm already out by then.
i don't have a firm understanding of characters' relationships unless we know exactly what positions/acts were used and the state of the climax. make it make sense!
I kinda agree, I don’t need to see other people’s intimacy. They can easily allude to it without adding an awkward scene for everyone to sit through.
Another set of common Hexprude Ls
Joke: this entire post should be deleted for relitigating a struggle session
Serious: goddamn, some of the same bad takes as last time smh. thread that says more about people's maturity levels regarding depictions of sex etc
Whether or not someone personally engages with em or finds em comfortable is one thing, but the THEY PUT SEX IN MY SLOP threads always bring out funny ideas. Also bullying breasted-boobily novelists isn't discourse but it is funny.
I hate that people who have issues with bad writing get lumped in with people who have issues with sexual media.
Like, there has never been a troma film to do sex as disrespectfully as any given summer blockbuster.
I don't disagree with this. On the other hand I think it depends on the type of story, one of the reasons I seldom watch anime is that there is never any payoff, they don't kill the big bad when there is one and they don't get laid if it's a romcom. You need payoff, if the story is build so that the payoff will be sex you can't back down.
as a non-american i'll say the tired played out "it's weird to see americans cheer and be amused by gratuitous violence but then blush when sex is brought in" if anything, it seems like you can't tell a story that doesn't include violence
Sex is good and fun and I will remain pro-horny until I fucking die.
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