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Permanent Apocalypse or Apocalypse in One Country?

Trump and the Posadist Schism

In the annals of revolutionary Marxism, few debates have been as bitterly contested as the one between Leon Trotsky and Joseph Stalin over the fate of the Russian Revolution. Trotsky insisted on Permanent Revolution—the idea that socialism could not be built in a single, isolated nation, but required a global working-class uprising to succeed. Stalin, pragmatist and bureaucrat, countered with Socialism in One Country, consolidating power within Soviet borders and, in Trotsky's view, betraying the internationalist soul of the revolution.

That debate echoes today. But the battlefield has shifted. The question is no longer merely about socialism. It is about apocalypse.

Specifically, it is about the correct interpretation of Posadism—the obscure, nuclear-obsessed, UFO-worshipping, dolphin-communicating offshoot of Trotskyism developed by the Argentine theorist Juan Posadas in the mid-20th century. And with Donald Trump currently bombing nuclear facilities in Iran, we are witnessing a schism that Posadas himself never anticipated: the emergence of a heretical deviation we can only call Apocalypse in One Country.

The Orthodox Line: Permanent Apocalypse

Let us recall the fundamentals. Juan Posadas, writing in the shadow of the Cold War, argued that nuclear war was not merely inevitable but desirable. Capitalism, he believed, would destroy itself through atomic conflagration. The task of the revolutionary was not to prevent this catastrophe, but to organize the working class so that it would survive the rubble and build socialism. In his 1968 pamphlet Flying Saucers, the Process of Matter and Energy, Science, the Revolutionary and Working-Class Struggle and the Socialist Future of Mankind, Posadas extended this logic to the stars: any civilization capable of interstellar travel must have overcome capitalism, and thus extraterrestrials would arrive after the nuclear holocaust to assist the global communist project.

This is Orthodox Posadism—or, as we might now call it, Permanent Apocalypse. The nuclear war, when it comes, must be a global event. It cannot be controlled by any single state. It must emerge from the contradictions of world capitalism or, ideally, from the organized international working class seizing the means of destruction. The resulting society will be global, species-wide, and in communion with our extraterrestrial comrades. And, not insignificantly, humanity will finally learn to speak with the dolphins, who have been waiting patiently for us to evolve.

It is, to be fair, a coherent vision.

The Heresy: Apocalypse in One Country

Donald Trump is not a Posadist. He has almost certainly never read Posadas. But this is precisely the danger. He is accidentally attempting to realize the Posadist program—nuclear war as transformative event—while stripping it of every internationalist, socialist, and extraterrestrial element that gave it coherence.

Trump is bombing Iranian nuclear facilities. He is escalating toward regional (and potentially global) nuclear confrontation. But he is doing so not to usher in world communism, but to "make America great again." He wants the apocalypse, but he wants it as a tool of American foreign policy. He wants the purifying fire, but he wants it to serve the American nation-state.

This is Apocalypse in One Country.

The heresy mirrors Stalin's deviation exactly. Just as Stalin argued that socialism could be built within the borders of the USSR, Trump is acting as though nuclear catastrophe can be nationalized—triggered for the benefit of one country, contained within the interests of one administration, controlled by one man's Twitter feed.

Trotsky's critique of Stalin applies here with unsettling precision. Apocalypse in One Country will not produce a revolutionary working class; it will produce radioactive rubble, border walls, and a bureaucratic elite hiding in bunkers. The extraterrestrials will not land at Mar-a-Lago. They will land at the factories, the picket lines, and the rubble of Tehran—and they will not ask for a visa.

The Extraterrestrial Question

This brings us to the most damning aspect of Trump's deviation: his position on the UFO question.

Orthodox Posadism holds that extraterrestrials are communists. They have solved class society. They will not recognize the authority of any nation-state. When the saucers land, they will land everywhere.

Trump, by contrast, has treated the UFO issue with characteristic nationalism. Reports of unidentified aerial phenomena are met not with revolutionary enthusiasm but with bureaucratic suspicion. The implicit Trumpist doctrine—if it can be dignified as such—is that if extraterrestrials exist, they must be subject to border controls, tariffs, and perhaps a travel ban.

One cannot build a spaceship with only one door. One cannot trigger a nuclear war and expect the survivors to pledge allegiance to a flag. The apocalypse, if it comes, will not recognize the jurisdiction of the United States.

And the Dolphins

We cannot conclude without addressing the dolphin question.

In Posadist thought, dolphins represent the breaking of species barriers under communism. They are our comrades, waiting to communicate after the revolution. Their existence proves that intelligence need not be capitalist, hierarchical, or destructive.

Under Trump's Apocalypse in One Country, what becomes of the dolphins? The evidence is not encouraging. The administration's environmental policies—drill, baby, drill—suggest that dolphins would be treated as yet another resource to be extracted, or perhaps as illegal maritime migrants to be repelled.

The orthodox Posadist knows: no dolphin tariffs. No sea walls. The dolphins are coming, and they will speak.

Conclusion: Which Schism Will We Choose?

We stand at a crossroads. One path leads to Permanent Apocalypse: nuclear war as the midwife of global communism, extraterrestrial solidarity, and interspecies harmony. It is, admittedly, a path with significant downsides—chiefly, the nuclear war part—but it has theoretical consistency.

The other path is Apocalypse in One Country: nuclear catastrophe yoked to the American nation-state, controlled by a bureaucratic elite, devoid of internationalism, hostile to aliens (terrestrial and extraterrestrial alike), and likely to end not in communism but in something that looks suspiciously like fascism with mushroom clouds.

Trump has made his choice. He is bombing Iran. He is reaching for the bomb. He is attempting to nationalize the end of the world.

The question for the rest of us is whether we will allow the apocalypse to be reduced to a foreign policy talking point. If the bombs are going to fall—and Posadas believed they would—let them fall for the sake of the international working class, not for the sake of a real estate developer's ego. Let the extraterrestrials land in Tehran, in Gaza, in Kyiv, in Washington. Let the dolphins have their say.

Do not let Donald Trump be the midwife of history. He has not earned the right. He does not even believe in the dolphins.


The author is a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, where her research focuses on the extraterrestrial question and the correct interpretation of Juan Posadas's late work on cetacean consciousness.

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

Doctored images, fake social media posts, generated content, and satire/parody that appears real should be clearly marked as fake and/or posted in the designated communities.

it would be cool if we made a the-onion style website. writing lies into post titles just isn't the same thing

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

Posadism relies on fact checkers so advanced they're indistinguishable from being the source itself.

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago

I don't think we have another Posadist.

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

that's crazy cuz I sold some sticks on ebay lowkey like a semi forknife ago so I probably peaked my profs

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

and it would be the easiest coup to frame as preventing a coup

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 27 points 6 days ago

The books were mid and you missed nothing, but very few scifi/fantasy series got a complete set of movies at that level of quality, and that's a pretty novel concept even today. So many competing books with arguably superior aspects get canceled after season 2 or end up feeling like filler slop.

Many of us grew up with LotR and HP wondering why there are so few tv shows and movie adaptations of similar quality.

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This was a comment somewhere else, I wanted to make my own thread on it. One of these spoiler tags has a long rant.

I think Stranger Things S1 is pretty good. After S1, you can stop at any time you're no longer feeling it and not be missing out on anything.

S2 spoilersmost people didn't like S2 but I thought it was awesome, and agree there was a tiny drop of quality.

S3 spoilersIMO S3 is where a serious quality drop starts. In addition to a general quality dip, the monster from S2 comes back but there is at least a twist so it's not as bad of a rehash as Star Wars episode 7 felt like. Also the Soviets built a secret military lab under a mall, they should have hired some people to rework that part of the plot.

S4 spoilersS4 has a lot of cool stuff going on it, but it's all over the place in very silly ways. It has a lot of quality issues.

The lore was ambiguous about what the Mind Flayer (S2) was. The absolutely worst part is when the lore in S4 established that the Mind Flayer was not in fact, some cool mysterious eldritch god (you know, something strange), but actually just some 40 year old asshole LARPing as a spider using magic dust who also has super powers for literally no fucking reason at all. If you can ignore the lore downgrade, the season's big bad (Vecna) is 50% okay and 50% wtf when did this become a Marvel movie?. The only thing they had to do to unfuck the lore was say "Vecna (some random asshole who has powers for no reason) and the Mind Flayer (eldritch shadow god thing) are working together (for literally any reason who cares)". FFS who cares about some random asshole LARPing as a spider? That's the fucking stupidest shit ever!!! First they're like "As a child, Vecna was obsessed with spiders." Then you're like oh okay, that explains why he's working with this shadow monster who definitely does not look like a spider but close enough for someone whose weirdly obsessed with spiders to be interested. Because if someone was that obsessed with actual spiders, they'd LARP as something that looks a lot more like an actual fucking spider.

Then everything is good to go, until they quickly pull a fast one on you, like they forgot at the last second that someone was going to ask "yeah that's cool and all, BTW what does all this Vecna stuff have to do with S2/S3?" and then they do a quick lame exposition dump explaining that the upside down was just Vecna thinking about darkness and shit found some magic dust and used it to LARP as a spider (WHICH DOES NOT ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE A SPIDER HOLY RETCON BATMAN), and it's extremely obvious this is a desperate attempt to retcon away the "sry kid, we were making it up as we go because netflix demanded with make more than one season" with "wow it was Vecna the whole time!!!"

Then everybody gaslights you that this was planned from the beginning despite originally the show was planned to be an anthology (and S1 plays well as a complete self-contained show).

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