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"What everyone is missing about climate change is that it's not about saving the planet or about science: it's about people. Earth will survive – it'll be different, but it will carry on. Humans are the ones at risk."

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[-] dillekant@slrpnk.net 30 points 2 months ago

Do you get this uneasy feeling that people know? Like they know they aren't in that 2/3 and that they are kind of racist enough that they sort of want that 2/3 gone? Like people call it "complacency" among the 1% nations but I just got this feeling sometimes.

[-] bad_alloc@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago

100%. I often hear the argument "we're not where it will happen first" when people don't want to take any action. Implicitly they know and even welcome climate change mowing down the global south. When asked if billions of climate refugees fit in their plan they handwave it away.

[-] dillekant@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I think they know that basically the refugees are going to be met with a military (maybe that's why the fear of refugees is brewing), but I think the thing they don't really understand is that those billions actually make all the things they / we use. At some point the 1% societies get to "peak buying power" and nothing will ever cause it to go up, wages be damned.

Also, we need those wages / taxes for the military they're counting on.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 27 points 2 months ago

Earth will survive – it’ll be different, but it will carry on.

I hate how glib some people are handling an extinction of not only human life. Countless species, ecosystems and individual animals will die.

But yes, life will continue. You're technically correct. The best kind of correct. /s

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 months ago

"Another species will die" does not spur action quite like "you and everyone you love will die". To be entirely fair, this behaviour is not uniquely human. We aren't that special.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net -2 points 2 months ago

I get the motivational part. It's just the "earth will move on, lol" part that's unnecessarily cruel and pisses me off.

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 months ago

I think the fatalism comes from a place of helplessness. Who is going to survive? The rich. How does a normal person survive or help stave off the worst? They can't. They're busy trying to figure out rent and food for next week, while trying to ignore the chronic condition their healthcare system won't let them fix.

Now, if we all rise up and eat the rich, we might have something. Not sure how one inspires such a necessary movement these days. Especially planet-wide. Plus, it would likely lead to violence, which many are not a fan of, I'd prefer not, myself.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Now, if we all rise up and eat the rich, we might have something.

One of the challenges here is simply organizing such a moevement. The communication platforms needed for that simply will not allow users to plan a revolution.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago

Plus, it would likely lead to violence, which many are not a fan of, I'd prefer not, myself.

You're ignoring the inherent violence that's already prevalent in the current trajectory things are heading towards.

[-] Neon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Technically seen, technically correct is the only kind of correct

[-] morphballganon@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Humans, sure, and millions of other species. Think penguins will survive? Nope. Jellyfish? Nope.

[-] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago
[-] Neon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

New proposal to solve world hunger:

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago

I'm not fond of this unusual-views-of-single-scientist kind of article. You can always find, for example, a gravity-denying physicist.

It takes more than that to be definitive.

[-] skeezix@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

See ya wouldn’t want to be ya

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