It all sounds well and good but I have a hard time swallowing any Billionaire advocating for ethics.
They're all pretty shitty, but Cuban is at least one of the less shitty ones. His work on reduced cost pharmaceuticals has been life-changing for some people, and is a really nice break from big pharma constantly trying to fuck you as hard as they can.
Yeah he's probably dying in the revolution, but towards the end. Assholes like Musk or Shkreli are far, far worse.
I'm staying neutral. I want to like him, but the last rich as fuck guy I thought was funny and was going to change the world for the better turned into one the biggest assholes on the planet.
Musk (assuming that's who you're referring to) was never funny. He was always a fucking loser with the level of humour of an edgy, dumb, tryhard teenager. Almost everything about him is a lie, he just managed to keep it under wraps while his PR machine painted him as a quirky genius.
Compared to the other Uber wealthy, he at least seems to have some sort of a code of ethics from what i can see, which is obviously limited. He's still in it to make money (obviously), but his actions seem to suggest that he won't go to the extreme of hurting everyone else just for money.
I started liking Mark more when he opened cost plus drugs. It's a pretty decent endeavor to try to reduce pharmaceutical costs for the consumer
Mark seems like the best of the Sharks. This is a very low bar, but there you go
He isn't the most conservative of billionaires, but hell yes he's a greeeeedy fuck face.
Has helped folks a bit tho. And profited
I wonder if there's any value to considering the point he makes on its own merits.
And billionaires are also bad.
God I hate the circle jerking of Cuban. There is no “good one.” His PR team is working OT to paint this completely BS image. Fuck him.
Absolutely came here to say this. There are no ethical, innocent, or good billionaires. None. You cannot make that much money without disregarding or hurting people.
We need to stop blocking for and idolizing these fucks.
Billionaire evil is a sliding scale from normal rich guy evil to comic book villain evil. He’s less bad than his peers, even if the stuff he does (like the cost plus drugs thing) are maybe just for PR.
We eat him later than others. But we do eat him.
People can agree with specific things he says without idolizing him.
See, I, like millions upon tens of millions of others, were not fooled for even one nanosecond by that Orange Fuck's obvious horseshit so, you're kind of undercutting your own credibility there, champ.
The only way to become a billionaire is to solely work in your own best interest, and steal the value produced by the labour of your employees.
Fuck off, cuban. youre one of them
The only way to become a billionaire is to solely work in your own best interest, and steal the value produced by the labour of your employees.
How exactly did Cuban do that? All he did was be on the winning end of an incredibly bad transaction by Yahoo, and parlayed that into being on TV a lot.
Do you think he just magicked up an investment? He built a company bought by yahoo. How do you think he created the company broadcast up to that point? By himself? Or did he perhaps have employees who did the hard work?
Building the company isn't what made him a billionaire. Yahoo grossly overpaying for it is what made him a billionaire.
And who profited, disproportionately, from the company's acquisition by Yahoo? The employees who worked to build it into what it was?
Did they get their fair share of that 'grossly overpaying' by Yahoo?
They didn't?
Did they get their fair share of that ‘grossly overpaying’ by Yahoo?
If they owned shares, yes. If they didn't, then why should they? The owners of the company sold the company at a massively overinflated valuation, so the shares were "worth" a lot of money. This really isn't a complicated situation.
Bro is just now getting around to critical thinking? MANY people were of this mindset 8 years ago...
Oh he wanted to make more money first. Now he’s worried us poors won’t be able to buy his shit. Fuck this guy.
There is a reason he is able to keep grifting. There are a lot idiots who think they're the exception. These people need to touch the hot stove before they understand why we don't do that.
Perhaps it's because they've touched the stove many times but never when it was at its hottest and develop this idea that they are special, but the reality is they are just really really dumb and don't understand the basic mechanics of life.
I could vaguely understand the allure of Trump the first time around (outside of the racist anti-immigrant stuff). There was actually something slightly refreshing in the first Primary debate he had against other Republicans that year (~2016), when he was still just a joke. He was saying things that politicians in general don't normally say, he wasn't following "the script". It only took him opening his mouth and his stupid policies after that though for that feeling to turn to disgust, but for a brief shining moment it seemed like he might've been a semi-positive influence that could've shaken up US politics for the better. Instead, he's just shown himself to be the absolute worst person possible for the position.
And considering how the average person doesn't pay that much attention and often needs to see the person in action, it's why I don't fault people for voting for him in 2016
After that, however, there was no excuse
I also wanted a non politician to take the presidency, but when it turned out it was Trump who would get the nomination for 2016 my reaction was
All of the conservatives who are coming out against Trump now are just bad liars. Everyone knew, at least for the last decade, how bad of a human being the man was and is.
I understand that sometimes you have to make tactical alliances for politics, but to come along later and say that you don't know a certified scumbag is in fact a scumbag, that's just unbelievable. I would prefer if they come up with a plausible lie. For example, they could say that they knew he was bad personally but they thought his policies were constructive, or they believed that he would try to clean up the swamp, or they thought Hillary was going to be a disaster so they needed to oppose her by any means necessary, or anything that might have a grain of truth to it. Those things might also be lies, but at least give us something. Show some decency.
Yeah so here is a question...
We knew all that BEFORE he was elected the first time, yet you -aparently- voted for him anyway. You knew he was dumb, that was obvious. You knew he was a self centered serial liar, that was pretty much his call sign. You knew he was a disaster of a human being, that he was petty, unstable, narcissistic and a sociopath. Yet you voted for him.
Why?
Mark Cuban is a classic Dumb Guy Who Got Rich Fucking Over Others. If he fell for Trump's shtick, it's likely because he saw an older and more crotchety version of himself.
Also, Republicans cut taxes for rich people. And after that, very little else actually matters.
He voted for him because he thought that would make him richer and more powerful. We don't need to look into it further than that.
I mean he's friends with mike pence, what more do you need to know.
we should stop giving a shit what billionaires say. if they have anything important to say they should save it for the inevitable guillotines as their last defense.
Mark Cuban has definitely made a life of getting his end over others (through his long career in business). Like any billionaire he made his riches off the backs of others. The Yahoo deal is Mark receiving the fruit of the labour of the workers at Yahoo, with Yahoo management squandering it to him and his crew for cheap.
I still can say Cuban is a bit different than the bunch of billionaires who inherited generational wealth or political power and above-average opportunity (Trump, Musk, Gates, Jobs, etc.). He might have the capability of understanding what it's like to be a lower to middle class person even if he is insulated from it now.
Like him or not, even the worst person you know can make a thoughful quip once in a blue moon.
Aren't all billionaires conservative? I don't think about them for my own sanity's sake, but I cannot imagine a progressive billionaire.
You want somebody that has hired
In other words - a capitalist
You want somebody who's first inclination is not to do what's in their own best personal interest.
In other words - not a capitalist.
Can't have both, and we know which one we have.
Would you hire somebody that has a long history of stealing from people - of being unethical?
So - a capitalist, just like you (Cuban).
This is the kind of bullshit billionaires say to try and legitimise their existence to us, but mostly to themselves. He really believes he is an ultra ethical person who looks out for the interests of others before his own, because he works hard at telling himself he is. Harder than at most things I would wager.
Doesn’t matter what a scumbag the president is as long as he doesn’t steal money from this guy or his friends and keeps making them money.
That’s pretty much what he seems concerned with. “Dude stole money from my friend, presidents are supposed to be smart and make us money with a good economy, I don’t want a president that isn’t using money how I think they should.”
This snippet just makes this look like another billionaire protecting his money whith no other concern.
I wish conservatives billionaires would say less. I don't care if they're anti-Trump. Being anti Trump is below the bare minimum. Stopped clock behavior
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