Therefore, we are left with some options that may feel uncomfortable to us. For example, we may want to consider leaving the Fediverse for another software platform that does NOT include ActivityPub. To explain, Fediverse/ActivityPub are very positive concepts on the foundational level. However, the Beehaw project is struggling to include this because most of our moderation/content/ethos is being jeopardized from OTHER federated instances (i.e. it, mostly, is NOT coming from within our own Beehaw registered user base).

Sounds like they don't like federation and just want to isolate their own instance. Why couldn't they just defederate instead of going through the process of migrating to another platform? Is it really that difficult to do?

EDIT: Thinking about this a little more, it seems like the admins (or admin?) have a very specific idea of the kind of community they want, and are getting frustrated when everything isn't perfect to their vision, whether that's lemmy code or other instances they are federated with. Then they complain and contribute nothing towards making the fediverse better. I guess what I'm saying is that they really do seem to want a walled garden that's perfect to some idealized community that only exists in their heads, and I don't think communities really work like that.

This is hardly a surprise. When you adopt an anti-communist stance, you pave the way for unhealthy social trends to takeover, which increases the moderation workload considerably, and forces you into an unsustainable method of operating. Perhaps the decay has finally reached a stage advanced enough to send them back to the likes of Silicon Valley centralized models.

Hexbear has survived all this time because, like China, has been engaging in self-reform to address the problem of rise and fall. So long as Hexbear continues this path, it will continue to go the distance.

The other big instances that are here today may not be in a few months, or years. Fascinating to see from a dialectical perspective.

This is really sad for me. Beehaw was what helped me really dive into the Fediverse, and then I found midwest.social through them, and then you guys federated, and now I'm here... but they're such a kind and sweet place on the Internet.

I get that they're mostly lib af, but still, they're very kind, well-meaning folk, and I wouldn't have found you all without them.

I've been meaning to dive back in over there to say hi and be supportive but have had so much irl stuff going on, and man oh man, it just really hurts my heart that they're going through such terrible growing pains. I meant to contribute to the living expenses of one of the admins because I appreciate their work so much, and then I adhd-taxed myself and got some overdraft fees and was distracted with hexbear in the meantime and totally forgot, and damn do I feel like an asshole.

Idk what the point of this is, except to say that they're really wonderfully kind people over there, and I'm so sorry that things are getting so difficult for them.

I need to put some money where my heart is and contribute more to them and to hexbear.

Good riddance?

They've contributed nothing to lemmy but pain and problems. They do not provide any value to it. They do not federate with anyone. They've done nothing but take from the devs and done nothing but try to harm the project.

Sounds like internal issues. Whoever exists on their team that has the basic minimum technical knowledge to implement anything is burned and leaving so they're trying to put a spin on this.

Where did that bring you? Back to me

Lmao fuck em

After all the lies they've made up about lemmygrad I'm only going to cheer their downfall

i'm not really familiar with the nitty-gritty details of the software, but what could be such a large issue with lemmy that it's unworkable to run beehaw (700 users/month) while instances several times the size are getting along just fine? skill issue?

More like been haw lmao owned

Very funny that they're looking to throw in the towel relatively early.

Good fucking riddance lmao

Just crawl back to reddit already

All these Lemmy meta-threads are like when the children in Darling In The Franxx start talking about their feelings.

More like, has been, haw haw haw

Who they?

Skill issue lol

What is the origin of the beehaw community?

more like peehaw

😔