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The Pixel 9 series has way better battery life, but it also delivers improvements to charging. One of those improvements is that the Pixel 9 has higher requirements for fast charging, helping you better know if your charger is truly up to speed.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't get it

Why would you want your battery to change so fast? It gets hot and isn't great for the battery. I just want all day battery life and then a trickle change overnight. My current phone does that

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 31 points 2 months ago

BC you forgot and you got 5 min before you got to leave.

Fast charging is best feature we got in last three cycles IMHO

[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 2 points 2 months ago

I'm just waiting for capacitors to replace batteries. I read a really promising article recently and it said they figured out how to make a capacitor hold more energy much longer which means when that comes to market leaving your phone charging overnight will be a thing of the past.

[-] SGG@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Capacitors replacing batteries like this, similar to nuclear fusion power, is always only X years away.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

That's not going to happen

[-] 30p87@feddit.org 15 points 2 months ago

45W is still not really fast though, Moto is at 50. Wirelessly. Wired at 125.

But to be fair, Apple is at ~30W. And that's just sad.

[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago
[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 13 points 2 months ago

Raises the bar? Don't the realme phones come with ridiculous fast charging like 1 kW?

(The number is an hyperbole)

[-] kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago

Realme tested a 320W charging brick recently. It charged the battery in under 4 mins.

[-] potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id 9 points 2 months ago

And lowers the bar for overheating and longevity.

[-] leisesprecher@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

I just got a new phone (reluctantly) and it feels like 90% of the "features" are useless marketing gimmicks.

Most people still use their phones for very similar purposes to 2016 or even 2012. Instead of providing properly optimized software and batteries that last weeks, we get these huge heavy expensive unoptimized pieces of techno garbage. And of course they need fast charging, otherwise you'd be wired to a charter half the time.

I'm practically forced to spend 10€ per month, even if I'm hesitant to buy new stuff, just to have a reasonable phone. That's crazy.

[-] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago

I'm practically forced to spend 10€ per month, even if I'm hesitant to buy new stuff, just to have a reasonable phone. That's crazy.

What? Who forces you to pay that?

[-] leisesprecher@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago

Life.

I need a smartphone for my job (authenticator), bank, social life, etc.

Buying a new phone in the range of 500€ and having to replace that every 4-5 years, comes down to about 10€ per month.

Of course I could buy a cheaper phone, but those usually get barely any software updates, which I find rather frightening, and often enough break for other reasons (battery dead, ports worn out, cracked display). So it's not really cheaper.

[-] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 5 points 2 months ago

Buying a new phone in the range of 500€ and having to replace that every 4-5 years, comes down to about 10€ per month.

Fair enough, I thought you meant a real subscription of some sorts.

Yeah I definitely agree with you, phones are a necessity nowadays and it's not getting better

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

You can get a good phone for less than that. Also a 1yo phone is even more cheap so if you need a cheaper alternative...

[-] leisesprecher@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

Not much less. The cheaper ones all have significant drawbacks.

Used phones might be cheaper, but they still rely on someone else shelling out money.

My problem is not my personal financial situation, it's societal. We throw out tons of resources (natural, but also human) out of the window for products that have zero benefit. It's extremely wasteful.

[-] bokherif@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

And performance, and privacy, and …

[-] Steve@communick.news 8 points 2 months ago

Don't use these super fast charging rates. They aren't good for your battery.

I got an ASUS ROG phone because you can set it to charge slower, and stop at 80%. The battery longevity will be better.

[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 2 months ago

My OnePlus 8T lasted over five years and to be honest would probably still be ok, and it charged at 65 W. That's way faster than the pixel 8 pro I use now. Batteries have gotten way better than they used to be.

[-] Steve@communick.news 3 points 2 months ago

It probably lost 20+% of it's max charge in that time. That's what I'm talking about.

[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago

That's fairly normal for any battery, regardless of charging rate. I have a OnePlus 9 and haven't really noticed any huge battery degradation, my phone still easily makes it to the end of the day.

And if not, I charge it for just a couple minutes and get half of the charge back. It's pretty great. The newest phones can even charge at 100W+. You barely need to bother plugging it in overnight, just plug it in when you take a shower or have breakfast or something.

[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 months ago

I know, but I've had that with every device, no matter the charging speed.

[-] limerod@reddthat.com 8 points 2 months ago

Super fast charging damaging your batteries hasn't been true for a while. Charging standards like supervooc push the heat to the charger and charge two battery cells simultaneously. This reduces heat generation significantly than if you were to charge traditionally. My 15w samsung smartphone generates much more heat while charging compared to my 67w realme smartphone which stays cooler even while charging at quadruple of speeds.

Other smartphones slow the charging rate when the display is on. Phones which support supervooc can charge your phone at the same speed regardless of display being on or off.

My phone also has a smart charging feature where it can slow charge the battery at night & limit it to 80%. In the morning just before I remove the phone from the charger it will finish charging to 100%.

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago

Things like splitting the battery into multiple cells helps with this.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 7 points 2 months ago

That bar is still way slow. My phone can charge at 100watts, 0 to 100% in less than 30 minutes. Most American brands are way behind.

[-] Name@feddit.nu 1 points 2 months ago

How long will the battery last? In lifetime I mean

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 10 points 2 months ago

I mean it really doesn't get as hot as I'd had thought it would which is apparently the big longevity killer. And the way they help manage these huge wattages is splitting the battery into multiple cells.

Chinese brands have had super fast charging for more than 5 years now and I don't think I've heard too much in the way of massively increased battery degradation.

[-] Name@feddit.nu 2 points 2 months ago

That's nice to know! How long have you had yours and have you notice any difference in battery time?

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