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[-] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 167 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They should do an anti documentary. Show Reagan as the blood hungry man that actively sought to gut government spending for mental health institutions, show him in backrooms smoking cigars to cut taxes, and talk to the CIA director to funnel crack in neighborhood.

Bonus points for downplaying aids specifically to target the gay community.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 104 points 2 months ago

So... an actual documentary with facts instead of a conservative puff piece?

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 65 points 2 months ago

And the war on drugs stuff, and the Iran-Contra stuff, the DoH grant rigging, Ill Wind, loans crisis, Wedtech scandal and so many more classics!

After all, he's number one in the hall of fame for convictions/indictions of Administration officials. A whooping 138 record, making him the Babe Ruth of corrupt US government leaders.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

Don't forget the press secretary literally laughing as gay people die, until Reagan's friend Rock Hudson got HIV.

Yes, just like Trump and COVID, Reagan's some policy on HIV was "do nothing and hope people don't care".

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[-] smokebuddy@lemmy.today 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Adam McKay was in the early steps of doing a Will Farrell comedy about Reagan's time with Alzheimer’s dementia, the concept being he was too far gone so his advisers told him he was playing the President as a role... the outrage machine got summoned and it got binned, but CANCEL CULTURE only applies to other things I guess.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/big-short-director-adam-mckay-892495/

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[-] joeldebruijn@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

If you put it like that I would prefer production, casting and direction like Narcos (Mexico / Griselda etc). Sublime in picturing another era and pure nitty gritty of real life back then. Without fake glorification.

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 94 points 2 months ago

One of histories greatest monsters. He ratted out fellow actors during the red scare. Real POS.

[-] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

This is comically hyperbolic. Ronald Reagan isn't even the greatest monster in the history of US presidents. Frankly I'm not even sure he was the greatest monster to serve as president in the second half of the twentieth century.

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[-] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 85 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

fawning celebration of its subject

That’s all I needed to hear to know that it’s bad.

[-] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago

Funny, all I needed was the title.

[-] teft@lemmy.world 58 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's saying something since Borderlands was also dropped this year.

[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 32 points 2 months ago
[-] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago

Apparently,The Crow has stolen Bordelands' crown as biggest flop. That's impressive.

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[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 2 months ago

At least borderlands isn't about a person who's helped lead the world to ruin

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 45 points 1 month ago

I haven't seen the movie or read anything about it.

But the writer also wrote a sequel to God's Not Dead, if that gives any indication of where this sits on the reality/lunatic spectrum of right wing shithousery.

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[-] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 37 points 2 months ago

And Reagan was the worst president of all time.

[-] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

I'd say Buchanan still wins. Saw the Civil War coming and basically stood back and let it happen. Was even sympathetic with slaveholders and the South in general even though he was from Pennsylvania.

But I hope to see the day sentiment finally changes and Reagan joins the worst Presidents list.

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago

andrew jackson is worst for me. trail of tears/genocide is pretty fucking unforgivable

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 points 2 months ago

American presidents didn't stop or start genociding natives with Jackson.

Fun Fact: Grant assigned Sherman to figuring out how to genocide Indians in the most efficient way possible, leading to the buffalo extermination campaigns.

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[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Nixon. Trump. Bush Jr. Plenty of awful ones to choose from. Seems like it just gets worse with every Republican.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm not really looking forward to the inevitably Obama hagiography, but releasing a movie like that right now would at least be timely. Reaganism might still rule our world, but Reagan - as a personality - hasn't been relevant in decades.

Left out of this scene is Reagan’s “Make America Great Again” remark, no doubt to avoid drawing parallels between its protagonist and Donald Trump, and it’s the first of innumerable instances in which McNamara and screenwriter Howard Klausner warp history for one-note lionization.

Which is a shame, because Trump really is the modern incarnation of The Gipper. He cribbed from Ronnie's playbook extensively and won with similar constituencies in a comparable upset campaign. Where Trump really failed was in his lack of an Evil Empire motivate the country against. Instead, he got a killer virus, which his own brand of cynical bumbling fascism was ill-disposed to confront. If Reagan had been held to Trump-esque standards for the AIDS epidemic, I wonder if he'd have suffered the same fate to Mondale in 1984. But AIDS was a disease for minorities, rather than rich old white men. So Reagan got to be the hero standing at the end of Cold War history, rather than the plague bringer that decimated the domestic economy.

Nonsensicality abounds, never more so than in Petrovich’s explanation for Reagan’s success: “People will not give their lives for power or a state or even ideology. People give their lives for one another, for the freedom to live those lives as they choose, and for God. We took that away. The Crusader gave it back to them.”

A bit of a shock to hear this, given the steady slide church attendance takes with the Gen X, Millennial, and Zoomer cohorts.

Considering its ceaseless hero worship, it’s unsurprising that Reagan concludes with an Alzheimer’s-afflicted Reagan riding off into the sunset. Yet for all the effort it expends trying to sell the late president as the embodiment of American virtue, McNamara’s film is so ungainly and transparent that it plays like embarrassing propaganda.

I can't think of a more perfect ending to a movie about one of America's premiere propagandists. But it feels like a message totally out of time with the modern audience. A "Hopey Changey" conservative throwback to a period of political optimism and a utopian vision of a single all-encompassing (fascist) movement that could sweep the nation.

If the movie falls to deliver, perhaps that's less the fault of the producer and the director than the man they sought to embody in their work.

[-] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

I can’t think of a more perfect ending to Kevin Sorbo’s career

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago
[-] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Yes, but, hilariously, not in the trailer

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 9 points 2 months ago

Sorbo is always involved in shit like this. He plays a pastor or some shit

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[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 10 points 2 months ago

I just went to the movies and saw the poster for it, first time I had heard about it. I thought to myself, okay, whatever. Then in the trailers I saw not just a tease, but an ad for some theme park thing connected to the movie you can visit? And I thought, WTF?

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[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The crow: get in line!

Borderlands: Amateurs!

Seriously though... What the fuck, 2024?

[-] EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

One of Deadpool's box office superpowers: all others (made or released same year) will fail

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 1 month ago

Twisters: Forgotten me already, huh?

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[-] mjhelto@lemm.ee 28 points 1 month ago
[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

Ronald Wilson Reagan

6 6 6

[-] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 26 points 2 months ago

I HAAAATE biopics about recent history. It's not entertainment. Doesn't matter if red or blue tinged it's still trash because the story needs to be "interesting" instead of the horrifying truth:

There is only power. And those who desire power above anything else.
And people who want other things. The rest is just window dressing.

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[-] xyzzy@lemm.ee 22 points 1 month ago

I wonder if they include the conversation between Reagan and Nixon where Reagan called black people "monkeys."

Or the Lee Atwater quote where he talks about his strategic use of dog whistles and starts it off by saying the N-word three times.

Man, Reagan sucked.

[-] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Well, to be fair, Reagan was one of the worst humans of all time.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

I saw the trailers for this and was like "Wait, is this a 'real' movie? It looks like one of those religiously funded 'Fathom Events'."

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[-] hightrix@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Minecraft movie: So far…

[-] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago

But is it worse than the Johnny Lingo reboot from the Mormon church?

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[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago

Quaid? Isn't he the guy from Total Recall?

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[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

I'm gonna get fucking loaded and watch the shit out of this movie.

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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 2 months ago

i cant imagine its worse than the crow reboot. i could barely get through the trailer. even borderlands was tolerable.

[-] Z3k3@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

It does feel very hold my beer over yhe last couple weeks/months

[-] PDFuego@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Don't forget, Madame Web was this year too.

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