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[-] Stopthatgirl7@lemmy.world 107 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

For anyone wondering about Georgia’s gun control laws:

-No background checks

-No purchase permit laws

-K-12 teachers are allowed to carry

-No red flag laws

-No bans on high capacity magazines

-No secured gun storage required

-Open carry / no concealed carry permit required

-No ghost gun regulations

-People with assault or violent misdemeanors can carry guns

-Colleges and universities must allow guns on campus

-Minors can possess rifles and shotguns

But Brian Kemp is urging all Georgians to pray for the safety of those in the classroom!!

[-] ulkesh@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

I thoroughly despise living in Georgia. There are so many gun-fetishist, uneducated, redneck morons who live near me that I have, at times, felt like I was literally suffocating.

The moment I can move, I will get the hell out of this hell-hole of a state. The only good thing you can even say about it is that it’s not as bad as Florida — where there are just as many idiots, but also sweat running down cracks you didn’t know you had.

And having a kid in school, this is one of my worst fears as a parent. The sheer helplessness those parents must feel right now, it’s both mind-boggling and maddening.

Fuck Georgia. Fuck the USA. Fuck the piece of shits who value their guns over children. And fuck anyone who believes that the cost of their own freedom is watching as children are murdered in the classroom.

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

What city do you live in if you don’t mind me asking? I know a few folks who adore Savannah.

[-] ulkesh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Not Savannah.

[-] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

So you're telling me the good guys with guns prevented the entire thing right?

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

You have to be 18 to buy a gun and the shooter is 14 so he didn't get the gun legally.

He was also investigated at 13:

https://www.ajc.com/news/crime/barrow-school-shooting-suspect-previously-investigated-for-threats-fbi-says/URBYIRVIN5CBRFUDDTWV2HNNQE/

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago
[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Now this is the kind of errant pedantry up with which I shall not put!

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

I'm willing to bet this 13 year old didn't walk into a gun store and make a purchase. I see this as a failure by the parents for being negligent with their firearm(s). Maybe one of those laws would have prevented them from making a purchase though.

[-] Stopthatgirl7@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

His father bought it for him as a present, which is legal, as I pointed out, because minors can own guns in Georgia.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah that's pretty fucked

[-] Warjac@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago

Man. It's almost like easy access to firearms is a problem or something.

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 month ago

Jesus. When I was 14 I was playing with action figures. I can't imagine what would drive a 14 year old to want to hurt people at this scale.

[-] zabadoh@ani.social 12 points 1 month ago

I imagine something similar to Columbine: Unchecked bullying culture in the student body.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Bullying has always been part of human nature. Mass shootings are a modern phenomenon. They also didn't become widespread until well after it was possible to obtain the weapons necessary to carry one out. Bullies are a factor but it's a far more complex subject than that issue alone can explain.

[-] zabadoh@ani.social 12 points 1 month ago

I was bullied as a kid, and if it had been that easy for me to get guns back then I would have seriously looked into it.

Yeah, it is that simple.

The relatively recent accessibility of guns everywhere in some parts of the country makes gun tragedies a lot more likely.

Whether it's bullying at school, domestic partner violence, or cops having to shoot first because a perp on the street is much more likely to have a gun than other countries.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Mass shootings have been around since the 1700s.

https://www.bustle.com/articles/141151-was-columbine-the-first-school-shooting-in-the-united-states-sue-klebold-finally-speaks-out-on

Kids shooting people in school has been around just as long. Usually they shot teachers. Note that parents were concerned about the safety of kids bringing pistols to school even back during the pioneer days:

https://www.k12academics.com/school-shootings/history-school-shootings-UNITED-STATES

People today have access to much more deadly weapons.

[-] zabadoh@ani.social 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In the long history of schools around the United States, of course school shootings had to start some time.

The problem is that they're growing exponentially in number, especially in the last decade or so:

https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/153/4/e2023064311/196816/School-Shootings-in-the-United-States-1997-2022?redirectedFrom=fulltext

  • 15 in school year 2009-2010
  • 18 in 2010-2011
  • 16 in 2011-2012
  • 26 in 2012-2013
  • 46 in 2013-2014
  • 43 in 2014-2015
  • 38 in 2015-2016
  • 48 in 2016-2017
  • 89 in 2017-2018
  • 115 in 2018-2019
  • 116 in 2019-2020
  • 146 in 2020-2021
  • 328 in 2021-2022

Absolutely fucking horrific.

[-] Soup@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 month ago
[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

I doubt it. Don't get me wrong, I am not defending those fascists, but a 14 year old (freshman?) is not going to just up and kill a bunch of people over politics they almost definitely do not care about one bit.

[-] lemmyman@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago

That's kind of an unnecessary leap.

[-] Soup@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 month ago

Nowadays? No, it really isn’t.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

He’ll “be tried as an adult” because nothing matters and what if it did.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I recall plenty of kids that enjoyed hurting others... We need common sense counseling and mental health care checks for students, and for adults in this country.

[-] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 25 points 1 month ago

If our kids aren't even safe at school then why the hell do we care so much about air travel?

Can we just move all school to inside airports?

[-] grue@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

why the hell do we care so much about air travel?

Because highjacked planes are capable of attacking the ruling class (e.g. the Pentagon and the Capitol Building), not just the little people.

[-] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago

Literally little people

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Oh man, Republicans would vote all in on spending money to reinforce school security. As long as they get to pick the military industry organizations that they have all their stock in of course.

[-] danekrae@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

What a great country you have.

Do you know what could fix this problems? Even more guns! Definitely...

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

"I was scared because I've never been in a school shooting," he told ABC News.

Goddamn

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago

Doing absolutely nothing about it in...3...2...1...GO!

[-] CorneliusTalmadge@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Schools will be closed through the end of the week, the superintendent said.

Only in America can 2 of your teachers and 2 of your classmates be shot dead. And they are like we are only giving you 2 days off while we clean this up, but hey we will be ready to go Monday.

I guess along with those active shooter drills they also got an active shooter cleanup plan.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I saw this story earlier.

It was under the one about Steve Doocy asking a dumb question.

America has reached the point where mass shootings in schools are barely newsworthy.

[-] bluemite@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Remember the days when a story like this was shocking? Now it's not even a surprise, nevermind a shock.

[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago

Literally the ONLY ONLY ONLY way to have Prevented ANY kids from Dying was if SOMEONE KILLED the Gunman BEFORE he killed anyone else! That's LITERALLY the only way we could have saved ALL those people from Dying!

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

You're in luck! I've just launched an anti-crime AI focused company, designed to keep kids safe! Our predictive model will identify high risk individuals and other undesirables. We can then remove them to a safe location where they can learn to be productive in our work and education programs!

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

First round financing netted eleventy berzillion dollars

[-] IMongoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Ok, but only if the suspects name is etched onto a little ball that comes out of a machine that looks like it serves gumballs and the UI is controlled in a 3d space with some cool gloves by Tom Cruise.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

This is only like the 350th this year. It's just a coincidence. Happens everywhere.

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Who could have possibly seen this coming /s

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