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submitted 2 months ago by penquin@lemm.ee to c/books@lemmy.world

Holy shit! This book is insane. I'm half way through it, and I can't even express how I feel about this book. Masterpiece? Doesn't give it justice. I've never done this in my life over a book (and I've read well over 500 books for the last 30 years), I got emotional during some parts of this book. I have ADHD and it's very hard for me to focus when reading, unless it's an extremely good book like this I guess. This probably sounds silly to some. The reason why I'm only just finding out about this book is because I'm new to the West. An immigrant if you will, and never heard of this book until a couple of weeks ago. If you haven't read this book; I highly recommend it. Alexandre Dumas is a genius.

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago

This is one of those books that seems cliche until you realize that it's the origin of the tropes.

[-] peto@lemm.ee 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I do enjoy seeing the 'oh, this is why' feeling in people. I got much the same reading Dracula, and I recommend it if you have yet to have the pleasure. You might think you know it, but trust me, give it a go.

[-] ValenThyme@reddthat.com 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

for any Dracula enjoyers https://draculadaily.substack.com/about is fantastic! since the book is journal format you get an email with that days journal entry on the dates they happened

Bram Stoker’s Dracula is an epistolary novel - it’s made up of letters, diaries, telegrams, newspaper clippings - and every part of it has a date. The whole story happens between May 3 and November 7. So: Dracula Daily will post a newsletter each day that something happens to the characters, in the same timeline that it happens to them.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

That sounds really cool, although we'll have to wait until next year to experience it from the beginning.

[-] ValenThyme@reddthat.com 4 points 2 months ago

I know folks who do it every year since the amount you have to read on any given day is so small!

[-] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ah that one has been on my list for a while. I need a new book - maybe I’ll finally see what the fuss is about Dracula.

Btw same thing for Frankenstein imo. Ya we all know the story, but man the book delivered so much more than what I thought I was in for.

[-] sentientity@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Frankenstein is sooooooooo good.

[-] joshthewaster@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

It's been a long time since I read Dracula but I remember really struggling with the start. Nearly quit a few times and it was slow going. At some point it flipped and I think I pretty much finished the book in one sitting. Anyway, it is great and was worth the rough start I had with it.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

That's how Fellowship of the Rings was for me. It took 4 or 5 times starting it before it finally clicked and then I absolutely loved it.

[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

For anyone looking to read in English I highly recommend the Robin Buss translation. It has endnotes throughout the book explaining various references that would not be obvious to modern readers, such as references to real people that don’t get named to avoid libel issues but would’ve obvious to readers in the 19th century, or how certain artists reveal that someone has good taste or bad taste.

Don’t be intimidated by the size; it quickly becomes a page-turner. It was originally published serialized in newspapers, like a modern TV show, one chapter each day. Most chapters end on a cliffhanger so people would buy the next day’s paper, making the book hard to put down.

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[-] Bertuccio@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

I fully support you in this endeavor.

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

I don't normally read fiction, but this one was recommended to me by a person on Reddit and I checked it out. Now, I'm hooked. I can't put the book down. Lol

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 16 points 2 months ago

To anyone who hasn’t read it yet: don’t let yourself be intimidated by the fact that it’s a huge book. It is equally rewarding!

Another poster suggested keeping track of the names. That’s not a bad idea.

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

Absolutely. Great point. The size of the book pales in comparison to the fun you're going to have reading it. I actually even wish it were a little longer sometimes.

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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

cannot agree more, i love this book and am so glad to see a post about it.

talk about an epic tale

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm just now realizing that some writers ~~and~~ are literal geniuses, like this man. He has to know several parts of science to be able to write a book like this. The philosophy part is killing me. It hits hard all the time and I keep reading those pieces over and over. The chemistry part, the medicine part and many other genius things have been said in this book

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

Great point, the different disciplines coming together to create such a cohesive and complicated story is so satisfying.

It's actually been a few years since I read it, I would not turn down a reread at all.

I remember being riveted and pretty much doing nothing else while I read that book.

[-] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 months ago
[-] penquin@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Oh yeah, I was just looking at that. Thank you

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[-] WormFood@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I love this book! it's long but dense, it's trashy but it's also high art, it's tragic but it's also inspirational. I'm glad Dumas was paid by the word, because it means he wrote as much. You should check out the musketeers books if you haven't already, I think Count is a stronger book but they're all written in the same engrossing style.

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 months ago

I got halfway through your post and ordered the book. Here’s hoping it lives up to its reputation. I think it will.

[-] Hello_there@fedia.io 9 points 2 months ago

Your library definitely has it. Hell, its so old it might be on project gutenberg

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago
[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, if you're ever looking for a book and see online listings with tons of different looking books and a wide range of prices, there's a good chance it's in the public domain and available free somewhere.

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[-] penquin@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Lol. Oh no, I hope you'll love it and don't feel like you wasted your money. Like another commenter said, write down new names you meet and what they do so you don't get confused later on in the story. The book is 3380 pages on my E-reader. So, be ready for a long read.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 months ago
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[-] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago

Make sure you’re reading the unabridged version. I’ve heard there’s subpar versions out there.

[-] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

I read that last year and it was fantastic. Top 5 for sure, I think my all time #2. It was like game of thrones, where you’ve got all these people showing up, and this spiderweb of seemingly unrelated stories gets told. But unlike game of thrones, it actually threads back together from chaos into a satisfying, well wrapped up conclusion. It is a masterpiece.

Honestly, half way through? That would be considered “the boring part”. It only gets better from there. You’re in for a wild ride. Enjoy!

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Damn, you're making me excited now. Best part for me so far is when he got imprisoned with that priest dude and things got very crazy. You've put a very accurate description of the book and how I, at times, felt it was like. Get confused about something when it's mentioned then it's making sense somewhere else.

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[-] anonymous111@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Once you've finished it, read the character flowchart on Wikipedia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Count_of_Monte_Cristo

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Oh thank you so much for this. This is very helpful indeed.

[-] Infynis@midwest.social 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's been on my list for a while, I'll get to it one day. I'm also planning to watch Gankutsuou afterward, which is an anime retelling set in the far future, and is supposed to be good

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[-] rhadamanth_nemes@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah it's probably my "pick just one" best book. It's a wild ride! I'm interested in what you think when you finish!

Three Musketeers is different but I also really liked it. It's very amusing/funny.

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[-] sentientity@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

I was considering picking this one up. Good to know it lives up.

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

You'll love it

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Is the book better than the sandwich?

[-] Infynis@midwest.social 6 points 2 months ago

How could it be?

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago

That's a pretty high bar.

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[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The Count of Monte Cristo will always hold a special place in my heart because I read it as a kid and it was the first real "grown up book" I ever read, and it absolutely hooked me. I was reading it under the covers with a flashlight when I was supposed to be asleep. It has the vivid, detailed descriptions you find in the classics, but without slowing down the pace. There's a bunch of different threads and subplots to follow, and I generally feel like most adaptations don't do it justice, because it takes more than a movie or miniseries to tell the story - the one exception being Gankatsuo (as mentioned here already) which changes the setting but follows the story pretty faithfully, giving it a full season and starting midway through.

On top of the action, adventure, and schemes, it also has social commentary, philosophy, and interesting characters. The count occupies this unique position in the upper class in that he's not old money and not tied to the aristocracy, but not exactly new money either, in that he's not a merchant or capitalist. He's just this free agent with his own agenda and values, and nobody knows what to make of him.

It's fun, it's very thought-provoking, and the imagery is striking. Big fan.

It's a bit of a leap, but I think there's some similarities with another one of my favorites, Crime and Punishment. In fact, looking back at what I wrote, "On top of the action, adventure, and schemes, it also has social commentary, philosophy, and interesting characters" is exactly on point for it too. It feels more modern that the era it was written, I've seen it described as a thriller and I think that fits.

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

I was going to read it in French. I wonder if I'm missing out by doing that (it's a great movie, and I'm only semi fluent in French).

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

I'm reading it in Arabic, as the English version has a ton of words I don't know and I got tired of translating. I wish I were fluent in French, it's always best to read a book in its original language IMHO.

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[-] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Spoilers below so don’t read if you haven’t read a book published 180 years ago

It is the greatest story of vengeance ever written.

Not revenge, vengeance.

The book is bat shit wild. There are parts where you will remember after you finished and think ‘was that a fever dream?’

There was a cross dressing lesbian couple or did I imagine that?

Did he really just burn down the whole house?

How did he survive the poisoning?

Who is that bandit again?

What was buried in the yard?

So many tangential story lines that culminate in an amazing climax.

So many moments that are little vignettes which explain pivotal moments in the characters.

The crazy Abbes relief when Dantes believes him.

The live fish being delivered in barrels

The fact no one escapes the Counts wrath.

Wait and Hope Baby. Wait and hope.

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[-] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago

I had pneumonia repeatedly in high school and spent plenty of time recovering at home. I read CoMC as a freshman bc I was bored and it was on the reading list for the year.

I devoured the book. I enjoyed it even though I did keep confusing and forgetting characters. It was so amazingly fun to read.

[-] Masamune@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

This is my favorite book! I love that you love it too! It only gets better the further you get in the story. I own both the abridged and unabridged versions, can't go wrong with either. Hope you enjoy the last half!

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[-] CheeryLBottom@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I have read both The Count of Monte Cristo, The Three Musketeers, and Twenty Years After. I'm currently playing with the idea to read The Three Musketeers again because it has been so long.

I had also read The Count of Monte Cristo a few years ago and want to see if i can take on the unabridged version

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