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AOC launches latest attack on Green Party's Jill Stein and gets sharp response in intensifying clash (www.msn.com)

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[-] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 26 points 2 months ago

"Decline in militarism" is russian for 'make America no longer a super power'. /s

Clearly a presidential candidate that cares about America in the one realm Presidents hold the most sway: world affairs.

Putin’s Jizz Stein wants Nato disbanded, the US to give up their SC veto, and revoke weapons to help Ukraine defend itself while simultaneously forcing ‘peace’ (subjugation) negotiations with russia.

For those that don’t understand how the Electoral College + FPTP voting works, voting for her means helping donald become president due to the spoiler effect.

2015 Stein breaking bread with Putin, his senior staff, and Mike Flynn (later Trump's national security advisor

[-] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Nothing to see in this photo. She’s just having a meet and greet over a light lunch with a murderous dictator and a treasonous former general. - Shill Stein Supporters.

[-] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 12 points 2 months ago

It's worse than that even.

Emir Kusturica is a propagandist filmmaker quoted as saying "if I was Russian I would vote for him". He also supports Russian annexation of Crimea.
Willy Wimmer was a Right-wing German politician who in his retirement has effectively become a far-right conspiracy theorist that regularly posts to the Epoch Times.

[-] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 4 points 2 months ago

I feel AOC is right here. It would be easier to take the Green Party more seriously if they were working hard to build a grassroots and running for and wining elections not only for Senator or House Rep, but even in state legislatures. Perhaps even a governorship or two.

[+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -29 points 2 months ago

Putin’s Jizz Stein

You lost all credibility when you said that. Try disagreeing without namecalling.

[-] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Tell you what. Let's make a bet. Whomever has the greater amount of net votes between the 2 posts above by the end of this Sunday vows to stop posting in this community until after the election.

Edit: We'll get a mod on the actual server to make the call.

[+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Putin’s Jizz Stein

You lose all credibility when you say things like that. Try disagreeing without name-calling.

[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

He followed up with evidence, and you're crying about name calling, which wasn't even towards you. Disingenuous as usual.

[-] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 8 points 2 months ago

So by doubling down are you willing to actually stand by it and take the bet? Tell you what. I'm so confident you're wrong that I'll give you an hour from the posting of this to craft a full on dissertation on why you think Stein is teh best candidate. You can edit your first reply to that dissertation, I'll screenshot it and put it in here to make it concrete and official and we'll let the 2 posts see who wins the credibility contest.

You willing to stand by your opinion or are you just bluster?

[+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm not even voting for Jill Stein, friend.

Also, I don't have to explain myself to you at all. About anything.

You lose all credibility when you say things like, "Putin’s Jizz Stein." Try disagreeing without name-calling.

[-] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 8 points 2 months ago

Seeing as we're friends, I'll share with you my favourite Shakespear quote:

"Cowards die many times before their deaths. The brave taste of death but once." (Julius Caesar, Act 2 Scene 2)

[+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Cool story, bro. I don't have to explain myself to you at all.

And I'm not even voting for Jill Stein.

[-] skeezix@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You really do need to explain yourself if you want to come in here and try to shill for a russian asset. For someone who continually claims to "not be voting for Jill Stein" you certainly seem to be taking every opportunity to post about her. I guess it keeps you off the front lines though.

[+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You really do need to explain yourself

Actually, no. No, I don't.

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[-] skeezix@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

For someone who continually claims to "not be voting for Jill Stein" you certainly seem to be taking every opportunity to post about her.

[+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -15 points 2 months ago

I don't have to explain my actions to you. I didn't write the article.

[-] skeezix@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

No need to explain yourself to me. But since you’re “not voting for Jill Stein” yet continually post articles about her, it would perhaps be beneficial, not for me but for this community in general, to understand what your motivation is in that regard.

[+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -14 points 2 months ago

to understand what your motivation is in that regard.

I don't have to explain anything to you.

[-] skeezix@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

This you?

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Seeing as Stein has no credibility herself it all evens out.

[-] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 2 points 2 months ago

Coming back to check how soundly this statement was beaten into oblivion will forever make me smile.

[+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Coming back to check how soundly this statement was beaten into oblivion will forever make me smile.

Wow, so you are happy engaging in namecalling. That says way more about you than it does me.

If you enjoy making fun of people, then you are definitely in the right place. Enjoy.

The fact that you enjoy it so much, actually tells me that my guess about you was right. I think you're the one spreading misinformation and doubt and that maybe you aren't even voting Democrat. I think I know which side you're on. Your actions are proving it.

And you also seem to care way more about upvotes and downvotes than I ever have or will ever do. lol

I stand by what I said about namecalling. Proudly. :)

You lost all credibility when you started namecalling. Try disagreeing without namecalling.

[-] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 3 points 2 months ago

When someone is so reprehensible, being an obvious traitor to her country for a few rubles, is put in their place I do find joy. Some people deserve much worse but insults are the only real recourse.

I only care about up-votes in this case because it objectively proves you wrong about discrediting which means your predictable burying your head in the sand patently won't work (Hence your spiral into salty hostility). Sorry friend, but beating your chest and crying "I'm right!" won't work when it's prefaced by a big red numeral "f you, you're wrong". :)

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 months ago

It's cool how she'll call a genocide a genocide, but she's got no shot at getting enough votes to do anything and she should duck out. It's pathetic to pretend otherwise.

I hate the way Harris blindly supports Israel. But just because Stein would theoretically put a stop to it means nothing when she can't possibly win. And while I gave up on the dems' threat of vote for us or it'll be worse and stayed home, we didn't know how much worse it could be. This time around (and 2020), we know how horrible four more years of the orange bad would be. Once again, I will vote against him.

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