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No idea how real this is, but seems like a fairly logical way for things to play out.

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[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 86 points 2 months ago

You know I've been discussing this with my sibling: this event may seem like nothing considering this probably won't lead to invasion. You know, just a terror attack which the entity regularly engages in.

But in the grand scheme of things this is going to snowball into collapse of the western tech market in Western Asia and probably the world.

China's semiconductor game is on point. They're only a few months away from western tech standards and they continue to move forward. I mean it tracks with their records on solar panels and EVs, sectors that the west used to dominate until China locked in.

Their biggest competitors were western tech; Apple and Google are massive competitors (and often they do out-compete Huawei in the global stage) among other western companies.

These waves of attacks (we'll probably see more in the future, since I doubt it's just pagers and radios) tells everyone that even western tech supply chains aren't to be trusted before it was just the tech with regards to backdoors and surveillance.

But now your fucking device could turn into a bomb? Whose to say that your home appliance can't be turned into a fucking bomb; what about your TV and laptop?

Countries have already gotten the memo, this is reminiscent of the US kicking Russia out of the SWIFT payment system. That was the nuclear option that the west thought would bring Russia down, instead it expedited dedollarization and BRICS enrollment. Saudi Arabia started offering oil in the yuan after what happened to Russia.

Countries, especially if they're in the US's cross hairs, are probably looking at incorporating more Chinese alternatives. I'm talking Chinese made from A to Z. Nothing with western involvement.

Chinese products are good, and they constantly improve and get cheaper. You don't innovation in the west like you would get from China. All this attack did was expedite the global shift to Chinese tech.

Tldr: western tech will go the way of the American automotive industry.

[-] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago

I always see Sinophobes screeching about how they will never buy a Chinese EV under any circumstances because it will spy on them or be remotely controlled by the SEE SEE PEE. And yet there is zero evidence to back these claims whereas a US ally literally implants bombs inside communication devices to commit mass terror.

[-] BlueMagaChud@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago

they'll crack EUV lithography soon and then it'll truly be joever

[-] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

I didn't really think an XKCD comic would turn into reality like that.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 78 points 2 months ago

Personally, yes, I would prefer non-exploding technology

[-] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 35 points 2 months ago

If you refuse to buy an exploding phone you're a traitor

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago

I saw some Baofeng walkies yday, nothing is necessarily safe

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 62 points 2 months ago

Yeah. Checks out. I'd be ripping apart every piece of consumer electronics I could access now, while scrambling to replace all of my comms infrastructure.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

I'm still of the opinion that as leftists we need to be making some of our own gear. Things like esp32s and things are plentiful and easy to work with.

[-] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 60 points 2 months ago

How long until every consumer electronic device in the US has a bomb in it for "national security"?

[-] Des@hexbear.net 36 points 2 months ago

it will not just be required but a felony (1 million fine/20 years) to tamper with it in any way

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Samsung Galaxy Note 7, but it's every smartphone and billionaire-tears is in charge of the big red button to blow them up if you say something wrong on twitter

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 57 points 2 months ago

Must be nice to have an economy.

xi-god-emperor: “Oh? You need a job? No problem, we have plenty of work that needs to be done!”

porky-scared-flipped: “Oh, you need a job? GET THE HELL AWAY FROM ME PEASANT! I AIN’T HIRING ANYMORE!”

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago

Capitalists love china. It’s politicians that keep interfering for nationalism

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 41 points 2 months ago

Understandable if true, but it also seems concerning that Israel was supposedly just throwing bombs in whatever devices could fit them after the pagers were infiltrated. Physical access will always trump any security practice. Israel could easily infiltrate a batch in transit if they had the need to.

That being said, the 2nd best time to dump all of your secure Comms would be just as the enemy gives away that your Comms might be Laden with explosives

[-] bananon@hexbear.net 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 months ago

Auto capitalisation has ruined me

[-] bananon@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

I think you mean blessed you

[-] SwitchyWitchyandBitchy@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Makes a lot of sense. For all the talk of securing the supply chain in the west, the more secure supply chain seems to have been the one that's entirely within mainland China all along.

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago

I’m imagine some Hezbollah official including an anime girl in his order

[-] Aradina@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

As the Bin Laden computer hard drive told us, most people are very normal.

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago

Detroitification of silicon valley inshallah

[-] Fishroot@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago

Tbh i would just ask the suppliers to send me the components so it can be assembled locally after the merchandise arrives and vetted

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago

This is a pretty awesome idea. It bakes in Right-to-Repair / DIY aspects to the designs and also encourages more standardization of parts, along with testing and validation.

[-] Fishroot@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

Everyone should tbh. it is not a surprise that drone factories started to pop up in the ukraine-russia conflict on both sides where they order parts from alibaba

[-] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago
[-] 2812481591@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago

Nasrallah at a press conference tries to stay serious while he unfolds his Mate XT.

[-] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

First phone in nearly 20 years I actually want

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Worth noting that this account is completely open about being People's Armed Police Propaganda Bureau (PLA).

No they're not memeing about that, they actually are.

[-] chungusamonugs@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Is this trying to frame manufacturing 24/7 as nefarious? Third shift exists at what pitiful manufacturing remains in the US, but you never hear things like "ford allegedly running overnight shifts to build new f150s, a requirement for the hogs to drive to McDonald's".

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