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[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 17 points 16 hours ago

Love how it takes them 3-5 business days to return the money they stole from you.

We had to remove our credit card from our account because Amazon kept charging us for Prime and I would have to call them to get it cancelled and refunded (and wait 3-5 business days to get our money back).
We were very careful when checking out that we didn't have anything checked saying "sign me up for Prime", even had it happen on a day where we did not place an order (and therefore weren't on the site) for at least a week on either side of us "signing up for Prime." Once we took the card off the account it stopped happening, so it wasn't anything we were activating.

It's annoying to have to re-enter our card information if we want to order something, but less annoying than having to call them every month to cancel Prime again. And anything that increases the barrier to using Amazon is probably a good thing anyway.

[-] s_s@lemm.ee 8 points 15 hours ago

3-5 business days is the time it takes your bank to return your money to you, per your cardholder agreement.

[-] JaxNakamura@programming.dev 3 points 3 hours ago

Jeez, are they still using mail pigeons?

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

No. They are banking the interest.

[-] hihellobyeoh@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

I'm sorry, but I do want to point out, that even if they post the refund immediately, between their bank, and your bank, is generally why the 3-5 business days is in there, because they know there will be some delay between all of the involved parties.

[-] Lizardking27@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago

Amazon is dead. All the products are cheap, questionably-manufactured crap.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 16 hours ago

Its not dead but it does have cancer and lots of bloat and fluid build up

[-] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago

At this point, you can no longer trust Amazon to process returns properly. I've had three expensive items stuck on Awaiting Return, despite tracking showing it's been returned, and chat automatically processes the refund once I reach out. Frustrating ...

[-] ResoluteCatnap@lemmy.ml 25 points 23 hours ago

Ive had this happen a few times. It goes something like this:

  • i buy product and initiate return
  • i ship item with return label
  • as soon as return label is scanned then amazon will release the funds back to me
  • if for some reason they don't get that package then they say they didn't get the item back and take the funds back. When this has happened to me it has been 6+ months later
  • when i asked amazon about it they just tell me they didn't get it back. I tell them i have the shipping confirmation receipt and that this is someone else's problem and not mine.
  • there's a lot of back and forth and eventually they act like they're doing me a favor by giving me my money back

I think the problem was one of the drop off locations we used was stealing products, or just straight up losing them. But it is insane to me that amazon comes back 6 months later. The only thing worse than buying a broken dildo on amazon is returning the broken dildo and still getting charged for it. Getting fucked by the broken dildo twice and not in the ways i had hoped!

[-] jadedwench@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

I always take it to my UPS store down the road instead of boxing it up and sending it out. You don't package the item up at all. They scan the barcode on my phone and take the item. Done, return processed. If they steal it afterwards, not my problem since the code was scanned and you get a notification/receipt. They have a lot of strange locations you can take it to, including random big box stores.

[-] ResoluteCatnap@lemmy.ml 5 points 21 hours ago

That's what we were doing. It can still happen. If the item isn't received back by Amazon for some reason then they charge you for the product again, even if 6+ months later.

[-] jadedwench@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

That is some definite bullshit. I am both a software developer and a controls engineer. That stuff irritates me to no end, but I also understand how these systems can fail. They will always protect themselves over the user/customer, so thus we suffer. Hell, I used to do Amazon projects on the controls/industrial side. Amazon had their own software systems that they built/stole running things overall, so thankfully I didn't have to deal with trying to make them happy on the software side too. I much prefer programming the machinery.

[-] DucktorZee@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

You were lucky enough to find the chatbot. I had this happen when I could not find any way at all to reach someone about this problem. Ended up eating the charge f*** Amazon

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago

They seriously hide that shit and move it around so that you can't find it. Also it gets worse every year.

[-] punkaccountant@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago

In the app search bar I was able to get the chatbot just by typing the question “how do I chat with customer service?” For future reference.

[-] DucktorZee@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Thanks but that was pretty much the last straw on Amazon in my life so I hope to never use this information. 😜

[-] punkaccountant@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago

Even better!

[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah it’s always annoying to find it:(

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I buy directly from the manufacturer and have for years. Most of my stuff comes gift wrapped with coupons and tracking numbers and reward points; sometimes I can even get clearance items or sales that make it on par with Amazon prices, especially these days Amazon isn't very cheap. If I need cheap bullshit, there's always Dollar Tree.

[-] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 59 points 1 day ago

In this case, "it looks like we received it" sounds like typical AI choosing a response that sounds right with no attention to its meaning.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 23 points 1 day ago

Yep, I doubt the chatbot has direct access to the inventory.

[-] Chewget@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

One of their marketed features is the ability to access this type of useful information. Amazon is supposed to be one of the leading developers of the technology. I would be more surprised if they didn't.

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Wait, so you got charged a year later after returning it? They only issue refunds when it has been sent back, so they are charging you for their own inventory mismanagement, or worse.

[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 day ago

They often do the whole “we’ll refund immediately as a courtesy but you need to return it by x or you’ll be charged” thing— in this case for whatever (infuriating) reason they charged me even though it’s clear their own system (their chat bot) knew the item had been marked as received on their end. I dropped it off at a brick and mortar store too!

[-] jadedwench@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Wtf. They must have screwed something up with a software update. Worst case you charge back, but that might get your account banned...

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 hours ago

"computer error"

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

It's possible this is yet another courtesy refund thingy and they think they don't have it but they think the price of the item is not as important as making you happy as a customer.

[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago

I mean I dropped it off at an amazon store so they definitely received it

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 23 hours ago

I'm not doubting your story, I'm saying their records might not be what you think they are.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Did it refund you after the chat?

I feel like I had this happen as well but the chat bot was smart enough to be like "this dude spends a fuck ton on Amazon and this item was only $12, I'll just mark it received and get dude the money back."

[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

The bot did not refund me, I talked to a real person via the chat and they said the carrier team didn’t mark it received and that they would “disarm the retro charge” and refund me. We’ll see if it goes through.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 135 points 1 day ago

I had an ISP try to bill me for an unreturned modem five years ago.

I kept the receipt because I expected them to be so incompetent. Good luck.

[-] Dvixen@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Our previous ISP kept after us for a few years to return their modem/router. Only problem was we were a BYO account - we never had a need for their device, nor was it ever on our account or any invoices. A few years later, and every few months afterward (typically after I've had to contact them to solve the hell that was constant dropouts - reconnecting 2-4 times a minute) the missing BUDii would pop up again and they'd demand we return or pay for it.

Each time I got snarkier and snarkier, treading the line of being polite and sounding like I wanted to chew their face off. Then I got Betty (fake name) who asked for a moment while she read the correspondence on our account. She commiserated with the troubles we'd been having, clarified notes on our account and then solved what a dozen others couldn't figure out, and we never heard about the BUDii ever again.

[-] shadshack@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Hah! I just recently got to switch off Comcast to a newer local fiber company. Comcast emailed and texted me for weeks telling me to return their equipment that I never had, but even their website showed I had nothing to return so I ignored it. Eventually the emails changed to "you've been charged", so I called to complain. They assured me that I wasn't actually charged, and then realized they owed me a prorated refund since I cancelled in the middle of a billing cycle. They absolutely weren't going to give that back unless I called.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago

They can’t decide whether they’re evil or they just hire the most inept and cheapest people possible.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago

They ALWAYS try that shit. They never don't. I keep receipts and photos.

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[-] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 44 points 1 day ago

It's not surprising here on Lemmy, but on pretty much every other site I've ever mentioned issues I've had with Amazon, the replies would be filled with people claiming it is the best customer service, that they've never had any issues with Amazon at all, and that it must be something I did to cause the problem.

Personally I stopped using Amazon on a regular basis almost a decade ago after it was clear that the company I first started using back in the mid 2000s was irrevocably changed for the worse.

[-] KellysNokia@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

People who spend a lot on Amazon have great experiences on Amazon, people who don't spend a lot on amazon have poorer experiences

I suspect when you contact them there is a dashboard that tells the customer service operator how much effort they should put in to retain you as a customer.

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[-] drkt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 1 day ago

Amazon gave me a partial refund for something that arrived with defects and then I requested a full refund because it turns out it was way more broken than I initially thought in exchange for sending it back but I never sent it back and they just approved the full refund.

There is nobody in charge at Amazon costumer support

[-] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

CS agents have to work a minimum of 17 tickets per hour. Their quality is assessed by How's My Driving responses from customers, and the HMD have to meet a certain level.

This incentives the agent to wrap the ticket up as quickly as possible, to the best outcome for the customer, in the hopes they leave 5* HMD responses.

CS agent actions cost the company money? Who cares.

CS agents actions were good for the environment? Who cares.

Speed and High HMD is the only two things on a CS agents mind.

[-] goldteeth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 day ago

Once had an order arrive on-time, but the tracking information never got updated and kept telling me the package was "running late" and pushing back the expected delivery date, and then after like a week of that they just said "sorry, it's been delayed indefinitely" and gave me a refund. For an order I'd already received. And I mean, I wasn't gonna be the one to tell 'em they were wrong.

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[-] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I bought an electric start generator that stalled out after 20 minutes consistently, This unit can run all the essentials in my house whenever needed. I called and told the rep it runs great but all of a sudden it dies for no apparent reason.

He gave me full credit for it and told me to keep it or donate it.

I figured out the next day that is was my basement dehumidifier trying to turn on and the generator could not handle it.

It was fine the entire time. It runs on propane or gas and has a clone of a Yamaha engine and is made by WEN.

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

It probably depends on your account. If they don't think you are trying to game their system and you are a deep pocket consumer, they probably won't put up too much of a fight, they'd rather keep you hooked.

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