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[-] lugal@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 month ago

Maybe you wrote so many papers AIs were trained on that they basically copy your style

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 month ago

This is precisely why those AI detector tools are all bullshit. All LLMs are trained on things that real people wrote.

[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 36 points 1 month ago

I have a friend who turned in such a good paper during grad school that the professor thought it was plagiarized (no turnitin or anything) and gave him a 0. After meeting with the teacher and straightening it out I would have felt pretty good about myself.

It is a good feeling to do so well they assume you cheated. My HD math teacher (tiny school) made me take tests sitting next to them because I never did homework but always got an A on the tests. They assumed I was cheating.

[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

it's a good feeling unless you can't print otherwise and the teacher is an asshole.

I had that once in highschool, so no Dean to escalate to or anything. principal took his side. the problem was, due to medical issues, i struggled to get assignments done at home. this class was 90% essays, but it was also just a history class. 100% of the material was covered in the lecture. I'm autistic and tend to remember lectures very well. so, come time for the final exam, one of the only actual in class exams, and i get nearly a perfect score. i knew the material, i just had other struggles with getting the papers done.

he used my struggle with the rest of the class as the only proof he needed to get me expelled. i had to finish my schooling at an alternative school, which was way way better anyway and honestly wasn't a setbacm in the end. it sure set the tone for my relation with authority though.

[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 26 points 1 month ago

A couple months ago, my sister had to make a paper and then pass it through a plagiarism detector

The detector thought that some of the most common combinations of words and ":00"(as part of a time like 7:00) were plagiarized from their sources.

You could put any normal conversation in the detector and it would probably assume you were searching online what you should say next

[-] klemptor@startrek.website 22 points 1 month ago

Plagiarism detectors aren't meant to be used in lieu of critical evaluation. They find suspected plagiarized passages and supply links to what they think is the original text. Then you as the professor are supposed to evaluate whether it really counts as plagiarism. You can tell the detector to ignore certain parts that pass your scrutiny and rerun the analysis.

When I was teaching, I always included a "drafts only" TurnItIn link that was for the express purpose of students checking their own work for plagiarism. They were supposed to run it through TurnItIn, evaluate what it picked up on, fix whatever issues were present, and then when their paper was in a good place with no plagiarism, they could submit it to the real TurnItIn link for me to grade. This was to the students' benefit because they couldn't be surprised by the results, and also to my benefit because with this system students had no excuse for submitting any plagiarized material. The diligent students used this system. Lots of lazy students did not, and when I found plagiarism I was not lenient because they'd had every opportunity to avoid it. (And also because it's fucking grad school, and I had no patience for their fuckery.)

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago

Plagiarism detectors aren’t meant to be used in lieu of critical evaluation.

In reality, that's exactly how they are used.

Same with most of AI

[-] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

40% I sleep

60% real shit, I check.

90%+ they handed in the instructions and that whole page is flagged as absolutely plagiarised.

Pretty easy to determine breakpoints once you've taught the class before.

[-] JoShmoe@ani.social 17 points 1 month ago

You are the source! 🧟‍♂️

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Just rewrite it a few more times

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