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“The Israeli prime minister came here today and said that Israel is surrounded by those who want to destroy it,” Safadi said at a Friday press conference shortly after Netanyahu finished his speech at the UN General Assembly.

“We’re here — members of the Muslim-Arab committee, mandated by 57 Arab and Muslim countries — and I can tell you very unequivocally, all of us are willing to guarantee the security of Israel in the context of Israel ending the occupation and allowing for the emergence of a Palestinian state,” Safadi passionately argued.

Netanyahu “is creating that danger because he simply does not want the two-state solution. If he does not want the two-state solution, can you ask Israeli officials what is their end-game — other than just wars and wars and wars?”

Also, video of the statement.

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 45 points 1 month ago

I mean Netanyahu keeps crying about people wanting to destroy Israel but... uh... Israel is bordered by two allies and one enemy.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 58 points 1 month ago

Not even one enemy, Lebanon just wants to be left alone. Israel is using conventional tactics in an asymmetric fight which they know doesn't work. They know it only increases membership in terrorist groups. Israel is destabilizing their region on purpose.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 1 month ago

I meant Hezbollah, not Lebanon.

[-] BMTea@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Hezbollah is hostile because Israel keeps massacring, jailing, blockading and depriving of rights their ally. Actually now they're committing a genocide against it.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Hezbollah isn't a country. They are, at best, a political party.

[-] Sheldybear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Armed with lots of missiles and soldiers

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Yup. I'm not saying they're nice cuddly people. But Lebanon contains other people too.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago

They're a paramilitary organization with a small country's worth of military power (no air force though). Not trying to defend Israel, or course, but they are an Israeli enemy next to their borders.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Okay so 2 allies, 1 neutral, and 2 enemies. I'm purely just trying to head off the whole, "everyone is Hezbollah" argument I fully expect to see when Israel escalates this.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago

Hamas doesn't really count in this conversation, I think. Their scale is too small.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Israel obviously doesn't think so

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I don't think israel sees any allies. It is enemies and usefull enemies.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago

I mean that's kind of their problem then.

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Come on, bro. We all know the deal. Netanyahu is one of those cretins who considers the two-state solution to be invalid.

[-] anas@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Just to be clear: He speaks for the leaders, not the people.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

Oh child...let me tell you about republics.

The reps ARE considered the people.

[-] Furball@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

Jordan is not a republic

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fuck. Israel has never been great, but since the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin, I wonder if there's any hope for them being anything other than a rogue fucking state.

Good on Jordan et other signatories for making the offer, but I doubt it has any chance of being accepted.

This is quite the shame, as it actually solves a major problem for Israel. But the rejection itself makes it that much harder for even the strongest deniers to deny the type of crimes that are occurring now...

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Not sure I'd trust that guarantee if I was an Israeli...

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's hard to imagine why a cult of genocidal colonizers can't trust outsiders.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I was just thinking because it'd be the ones you'd want guarantees against. It'd be like Russia guaranteeing Ukraine's security or vice versa, neither side would put their faith in such a guarantee.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Yet it's the only way to peace. Germany and France put their faith into each others' guarantees after WW2 and created the EU. Peace is possible.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

That peace only came after one side was soundly defeated and occupied. Not sure it makes for a good precendent.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The Arabs have already been soundly defeated and occupied. Multiple times.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago

TIL Israel has defeated and occupied the 57 Arab and Muslim countries mentioned in the article.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm obviously talking about the Palestinians and the Lebanese, duh. And as far as defeat, yes they have defeated also the Egyptians, Jordanians and Syrians, and a few others.

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[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 0 points 1 month ago

Israel will end up using its secret nuclear arsenal for a similar guarantee.

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