Walz is friends with school shooters? Lol whoops
Remember that Walz by his own admission is "bad at debates" and that Vance is (an admittedly insane) Yale law school graduate. Walz has done few difficult interviews, almost every mainstream interview Vance has done has been difficult because he has to defend Trump. I just think it's important to have realistic expectations.
I'm honestly not sure what to expect, but I imagine Vance will seem like a more polished politician and debater. He is awkward and supports ugly things, but he doesn't seem to get goaded easily. If Walz can summon his "everydad" persona effectively to make it appear like there's a normal candidate and weird candidate up there and use his knack for a folksy phrase or comeback, that will probably be the "takeaway."
Due to the format, these debates have kind of turned into tiktok video farming events, so let's see who gets the most meme-able sound bytes. Let the games begin.
woohoo. walz brought up the bill and how its doing the things vance is suggested they are not doing. looking good.
first of all let me not answer the question and go off on a tangent.
Walz Pro Tip of the Day!
Minor Vance win overall since he had lower expectations going in and Walz got that one unfortunate extremely clippable misspeak. Vance refusing to admit Trump lost in 2020 and his Springfield...thing though cost him any chance of a rout, which is basically required for a VP debate to have significant upballot effects. Still the Republicans probably appreciate getting Vance above Sarah Parin and Aaron Burr and getting the media distracted for another day or two.
Walz pointing out that Trump does diplomacy by tweet.
Conclusion: Tim Walz is just too nice a guy to say what needs to be said.
Vance is... just not answering the question. His delivery is weirdly robotic.
Walz has the receipts on improving the lives of the middle class.
Vance:
I want the entire Minnesota law dealing with abortion spoken verbatim, sir or my lies and misinterpreting said law will be true!
so obsessed with impeaching donald trump. yeah well that happens when you use the us presidency for blackmail. Its not obsession when a person is actually being corrupt.
Is he capable of answering a single question? This is just tedious.
Trump said blah, pls respond. Lol no, here’s what I imagine Kamala might do in some alternate reality.
Well, first of all.
Well... First of all.
First of all.
Well. First of all.
Trump got the house republicans to turn against their own bipartisan immigration bill so he can run on the issue. Hammer that hard.
LOL at Walz just out there on his own and ready and Vance like, "WTF? He's already out here?!"
Ha, Walz didn’t just accuse trump of being an agent of chaos – he used YOUR words to point that out, idiot.
Good lord. Can he answer ONE FUCKING QUESTION? Just one.
Walz just comes off as so goddamn nice. I wish I could meet him in person.
The way this evening is going for Vance:
MODERATOR: [DIRECT QUESTION]
VANCE: "I'm going to talk about something completely different now."
The MAGA technique
A winning comment by Walz here.
That is 3 AM or 03:00 Central european time or Paris mean time.
https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/est-to-cet-converter
We bought Beer and snacks, looking forward to Walz walzing all over Vance. 🍺🍺😀
But he said he would have a plan 8 years ago… I think he should have more than a concept. No?
Great point from Walz on trusting experts.
Kamala Harris is not the president, and you’re a liar.
Your party has relentlessly fought against the working class, which is why we’re struggling and destitute, even after decades of working for the scraps we have.
You’re a liar Vance.
Walz was way too soft on Vance and let him control most of the debate. I'm tired of Dems positioning themselves as diet Republicans, then acting like they are nothing like while saying how much they agree with a guy like Vance on things lol. Vance also loudly saying you weren't supposed to fact-check me was embarrassing. Walz laid out actual plans and policy but that is not going to reach that crowd they are targeting.
I think this is how the evening is going to go. Vance simply won't directly answer any questions.
That was a really good answer from Walz, actually.
Bingo cards here:
https://www.wired.com/story/bingo-how-to-watch-vp-walz-vance-debate/
If you get the square with "The Cathedral" and are wondering what THAT Is:
It's a term related to extremist blogger Curtis Yarvin, who's in the J.D. Vance/Peter Thiel orbit:
More on Yarvin here:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23373795/curtis-yarvin-neoreaction-redpill-moldbug
Do we care or not care about the future? Vance what?
oh snap. walz pushing back on anti expert rhetoric from the right.
Walz hitting his stride now
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