Might be an unpopular opinion but I feel like complaining about loading screens being hidden in gameplay is pretty much just looking for something to complain about. The game has to load assets. That's a fact. Is it not better that it's done in the background than giving you a generic loading screen every time?

From what I understand, things like squeezing through walls were supposed to go away with the PS5. But, Ragnarok is still available on PS4 to cater to mass audiences, so they need that extra bit of time for loading.

Ironically, one game that’s handled open worlds a bit better is on a console less capable of handling them. Breath of the Wild uses it to promote exploring towards vantage points and then interesting sights.

Sea of Thieves does something similar. You start a session, and want treasure, so you take a basic and boring assignment with a treasure map. BUT, you spy a bunch of interesting happenings throughout the ocean and beaches on your way, and so your adventure becomes more complex. Coming across those at random feels a lot more fun than picking them as a targeted assignment on an objective board.

To be fair, even if the open world is not well used, it can provide a sense of connection for the world. It can be more fun than just having a mission select screen.

I think God of War is fine since the entire experience is supposed to be one that does not get interrupted, there are never any camera cuts, and they hid a few loading screens behind portal effects.

I liked the Jedi Survivor style as well, it feels natural and doesn't interrupt the gameplay. Much like Outlaws using cleverly hidden cutscenes to go from planet to space and other planets. It all keeps you in the immersion and experience. Climbing and other parkour stuff don't feel out of place in these games, it would be quite boring if everything in games existed only on a flat plane and you'd never ever have to turn corners or climb anything, takes away the idea of exploration and discovering new things.

I much prefer the modern solutions over elevators and loading screens. Nothing is stopping anyone from just hitting pause and stretch their fingers if you feel like you need a break lol

I think it's a bit of a stretch to describe games with loading screens of that kind (whether disguised as choke points or not) as open worlds. Sure, they might allow more freedom than a game that stays on rails for every step of the journey, but to me, "open world" suggests something more.

Continuity while exploring the landscape, unimpeded by artificial barriers or immersion-breaking interruptions, is a big part of it.

Almost as important is that the world be interesting and diverse enough that I would want to spend my time exploring it. This is one of Skyrim's great strengths: It's full of unique things to discover, most of which aren't marked on the map (except sometimes when you're already there), and some don't even stay in the same place. It ensures that exploring the world and paying attention is rewarding and satisfying. The Witcher 3, on the other hand, is weak in this area: Its world is mostly open, but practically everything in it is a copy/paste instance of a handful of events, and clearly marked on the map. Exploration quickly becomes a tedious exercise in running from dot to dot, doing the same few things over and over again. It doesn't deliver the satisfaction I expect from an open world game. In a world like that, I get bored fast.

I think the only game you mentioned on that list which is actually open world might be Final Fantasy. None of the other games are open world.

Open world games are The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, The Witcher III: Wild Hunt, Conan Exiles, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, Forza Horizon, Shadow of the Colossus, Eden Ring, Insomniac's Spiderman.

Some of these have unique traversal mechanics, some of these use only generic kinds, such as walking.

I have been playing death stranding recently and the gameplay (= traversal) is surprisingly fun. It's challenging and the characters acknowledge that too.

It depends on the game. I wouldn't remove the open world from Elden Ring at all, since sightlines are so important to you figuring out how to get somewhere. Horizon: Zero Dawn and Ghost Recon: Wildlands are two games that I love, but both would have been better if you just selected missions from a menu. In Metal Gear Solid V, they basically give you the option to play the game that way, which is nice, since there are open world systems, but you don't really interact with them constantly. If you can get away with the Uncharted thing though, where you're seamlessly moving from one thing to the next, it can be great for pacing and presentation. Especially since Bandai-Namco had the patent on loading screen mini games, a lot of developers ended up inventing "load bearing walls", where tight spaces that you have to crawl through will mask a load screen between two scenes.

Eve Online pioneered this approach to loading screens like 20 years ago.

The annoying thing is they don't really need to. PS5 SSD loading is near instant. They're still using techniques that I first noticed in Soul Reaver.

Still we're a long way from San Andreas and it's miles of open country between cities to hide the loading.