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[-] darthsid@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

But what about the shareholder value?

[-] Signtist@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago

Every Republican I know thinks that every person has to support themselves and their ideals alone. You vote in your own interests, no one else's, you work toward your own goals, benefitting no one else, and even when you help someone, it's only who you've decided deserves it, no one else. I'm sure they think that 1/3 of life deserves to die if it can't survive in this world. (Pay no attention to how much I i rely on government support to live, though - I'm special)

[-] robocall@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Seize the means of production

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Read theory, and organize. Join a Leftist Party.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago
[-] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Which could be taken as a good thing or a very bad thing

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

"Life"*

But are you trying to make the point that it's an exaggeration because "known life" only covers like 99.9% of the species on the planet, but not some ocean dwelling micro-organisms that we've yet to catalogue.

Does that make the extinction on that scale less scary? Does it make capitalism better and more acceptable that they're only gonna destroy a third of known life.

Are you implying theres like a Hollow Earth with a massive amount of "live" that will compensate for the soon to be broken ecosystems?

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

You think that we know 99.9 % of all life? They say we only know 20 %.

If you only care about mammals that is a "you" problem, the ecosystem certainly does not need those. The deep biosphere, for example, is far larger than both land based and water based organisms combined.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Oh yeah, so it's not just a third of life we'll be wiping out, it's half according to your link.

The extinction of species by human activity continues to accelerate, fast enough to eliminate more than half of all species by the end of this century.

You are implying that basically we don't know anything about 80% of the life on the planet. That's not so. They're describing the part of the species which haven't been formally described, classified and given two-part Latinized names. It doesn't mean that we don't have an estimate of how many beetle species there are, but that we just haven't had the time to go through all of them. We still know roughly how much beetles there are, even if we're not exactly sure of how many types of them there are. And that's one of the hardest issues. For instance not knowing that a certain deer population on some continent might actually be two distinct but closely related species doesn't mean that we don't have an estimate of the population that those one or two species of deer live in. (That's just a hypothetical example, but I'm sure you get the point.)

And to reiterate, you're basically trying to justify that "it's not so bad if it's only a third of KNOWN life and that's clearly less than 20% of all life". Your math is really fucked up there, because it's "a third of life", not "a third of currently formally described and classified species". And even a third of a fifth of all life would be rather fucking significant.

Significant enough at least to warrant some action, when it's definitely possible to do so.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

How do you come to the conclusion that that could be what I say or imply? Where do I justify anything?

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Oh how I detest people who leave a comment with an exceedingly clear implication and then when someone addresses that implication, they pretend they never implied anything.

Us not knowing how many species there are doesn't mean the estimate of what percentage of life will be affected by climate change is completely off.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

Can you quote the sections you think imply these things and point it out to me? I fail to see it.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Almost as if you're doing exactly what I said. How surprising.

I explained in detail (of several paragraphs) just a few comments ago. You didn't address it.

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

They should care. That is 1/3 less of the profits they could be making.

[-] Birch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Implying that they wouldn't already control 99.999999999% of the wealth by then and had lobbied to make any private property, except their own, illegal

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Meme could be redone with the ExxonMobil internal report on climate change

Hell maybe this is what you're referring to...

[-] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, yes, but think of the value we could generate for the shareholders!!!

[-] Lightrider@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

Fuckingcapitalists

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today -1 points 2 weeks ago

99.9999999% of life on earth is extinct. 99.99% will be extint in 30 years anyway. Do you mean known plant and animal life which is alive today?

[-] C126@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is the government doing it bro, not private citizens. How many bombs is the government commissioning being built? How many blind eyes are they turning to wanton destruction of land?

this post was submitted on 08 Oct 2024
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