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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Subject6051@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I am talking about people born in USA or who committed crimes in USA after having lived here for a while, who when indicted/convicted of crimes successfully managed to flee the country and evade the Justice System forever.

Edward Snowden comes to mind, I don't completely know what he did, I know he exposed the US govt spying on it's own citizens and that's good, but apparently he put lives in danger and blah.. blah.. blah.. (I don't know if that's true, if it is, then idk, I might not like him anymore)

Yeah, but who else other than Snowden

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[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No one was ever able to prove a single life was put in danger by Snowden, it's all hearsay and speculation. Doesn't matter anyway if it did. People's lives are in danger all the time, but safety (especially that of spies and undercover operatives) doesn't trump human rights.

Assata Shakur would be another one.

[-] Subject6051@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

so the govt made it all up, you must be kidding me, it's not like the government bureaucrats & politicians to lie

[-] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah those claims are a slanderous distraction. The Patriot Act gave the government legal jurisdiction to spy on citizens because the terms were so vague, they just didn't reveal that was part of the intent at the time. Also the draft of the bill that was presented to Congress to vote on had omitted several, incredibly powerful words that mysteriously appeared in later versions of the bill once it was passed. What a weird coincidence. /s

But part of Snowden's whistleblowing was unveiling that the NSA was spying on citizens before the Patriot Act was passed. The Bush administration had already made an executive order for Congress to sign off on it. Which by the way, Nancy Pelosi was a part of. Even more reason to dislike her.

Edit to clarify: I learned all of this from a documentary I watched a ways back, but I don't remember the name of it. I may be slightly misremembering some of the facts, take that as you may.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 18 points 1 year ago

There's D. B. Cooper. He was never actually caught, so he never actually got charged or indicted, but he's one of the few high-profile cases that has never been solved.

[-] hellweaver666@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago

There’s also no proof he survived.

Also DB Cooper was Loki

[-] Thisfox@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Nah not loki but he was a time traveller....

[-] Jaywarbs@artemis.camp 6 points 1 year ago

Isn’t this the guy that people sometimes joke is Tommy Wiseau?

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah; they also joke about him being an alien because until recently no one knew where he came from or what he did before he came to the US. However iirc there's been more info about him recently that suggests otherwise.

[-] Subject6051@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

this is a complex issue, i mean, there are way too many conspiracy theories on this ig

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago

Leo Burt, one of the three men who bombed the Army Math Research Center on the University of Wisconsin campus in 1970, to protest the Vietnam War. He fled to Canada with the group, slipped away from an Ontario police raid, and hasn’t been located since.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

The problem is that if they were well known enough to get on this list, chances are a lot of effort went into getting them caught. I think a longer list would be to include people who fled but were eventually caught many years later.

The movie “catch me if you can” might be good movie for you, if you haven’t seen it.

Five inmates likely escaped from the Alcatraz Island prison and were never found. The first likely successful escape was Theodore Cole and Ralph Roe in 1937.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Cole_and_Ralph_Roe

The second likely escape was Clarence Anglin, John Anglin, and Frank Morris in 1962.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_1962_Alcatraz_escape_attempt

[-] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

Trump? 🤭

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