I guess it's a good coping mechanism to not face your own problems. Also you always have something to do and you feel involved.

They carry so much hate inside that it rises up and makes them ugly on the outside. Just look at all of those Neo-Nazis who would never meet the criteria for being Aryan.

I have no clue other than it provides a convenient excuse to justify their obstructionist ideals.

If conservatives had it their way, the U.S. would still be just a British colony.

Imagine being such a failure as a human being that they drag others down the hole they've stubbornly dug for themselves.

I'm not defending them but have you never had a strong conviction that something is wrong and you will do what you can to fight it?

That's how these people feel about gay people and so on. I can only assume they grew up around people who felt that way and they don't see the error of their ways.

I know exactly what you mean

This is the answer: they were already there to begin with

Well, to be fair, I have managed to get some lunatics removed from some local UK communities on Facebook. Granted, these are UK communities, but still, there were a lot of lunatics at some point during pandemic. All the crap suddenly started posting all kinds of non sense from blatant racism to conspiracy theories.

That’s been my experience as well. Reporting them does nothing, but if you call them out on their BS, Facebook suspends you.

As long as hate drives engagement, this will never change.

I was hoping they would just enjoy Elon’s twitter but apparently they really need to pollute the common spaces otherwise they get bored

Exactly. It'll happen with any platform that gains traction. I'm even seeing some fringe groups appearing in some niche Lemmy instances, too. People are going to go to wherever other people are.

I don't understand why these incels insist on using a Matrix analogy, red-pill just means "truth" and blue-pill means "ignorance", why do they constantly subvert a basic concept? It's literally the same with "woke", it literally just means what it says, "being attuned to what's going on". Nothing more, but these idiots literally ruin it, if anything they're blue-pilled, going by the Matrix

The big corps have always had a right wing bias. The corps bend over backwards to cator to these asshats while shitting all over the left.

There's a reason this stuff thrives on places like Facebook and will continue to do so. They also want a platform that has the widest reach.

It's why they want to be in the big sites instead of making their own because they want the rest of us to see their nonsense. There may not end up being a big hate presence on fedi stuff because any right wing instances will be broadly blacklisted either by the instances or by the users.

My theory is even right wingers hate right wing cesspools. Like there is no shortage of far right communities on the internet, but even if you were to be a right leaning person who has no problem with "a little free speech", you are going to be a "cucked liberal" to someone else. Maybe you are a fiscally conservative hypercapitalist but have no problem with the existence of gay and trans people. Maybe your a terf but still care a lot about abortion rights and access to healthcare. Maybe your extremely religious, but believe it is your duty to help the poor and provide charity for those in need. You are going to clash with someone in the same space as you, and there are going to be fewer protections from harassment and less places where you can feel safe in speaking than if you were on a more mainstream space with actual moderation. In the end the platform is going to be hospitable to only the most extreme of conservatives, and its going to become an echochamber of the same opinions, and the same hate and anger.

Second, most of these accounts and groups have the goal of recruitment in mind. You're not going to recruit many people in the far right echochamber because your basically preaching to the choir, so instead you go to the platformers where all the "normies" are at. There you can spread prop, pick easy fights and make your side look strong, and convince ordinary people that what you believe isn't all "that bad", or that it's the liberals/trans people/feminists/jews who are the disgusting or unhinged ones.

They were told they could now freely make threads and misheard.

Hahah, lemme know when they actually do fuck off. Sure, they deserve that response but it's not gonna get rid of them any more than it has anywhere else on the capitalist web.

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