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[-] Visstix@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago

GTA online ruined the whole series for me, even though I liked the single player. Just unplayable. Only for rockstar to fully focus on it, cause micro transactions. I just don't care anymore.

[-] lemmyingly@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

Why do you believe online is unplayable?

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

On PC, cheaters are the problem. They never fixed online gameplay or stopped cheaters on PC. I join a server only to be immediately killed or hunted mercilessly by some asshole who thinks it's fun to ruin other people's games.

[-] lemmyingly@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

There are ass holes every where trying to ruin the fun for everything in life.

There is now Battleye in GTA online, which has significantly reduced the number of modders, but it requires you to be comfortable with a kernel level anti cheat running on your system.

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Wasn't aware of this, thanks for sharing.

Even with the new BattleEye anti-cheat update?

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

No clue, I haven't tried playing online in years because it completely soured my experience.

[-] lemmyingly@lemm.ee -3 points 1 week ago

The bit they said about being instantly killed and hunted wasn't true even before the Battleye update.

There are still modders on the game after the Battleye update but there is significantly fewer.

Sure you get ass holes in game, but you get ass holes in everything in life.

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 24 points 1 week ago

Online is unplayable for the reasons posted but I’m more pissed they scuttled the single player DLC to focus on online instead.

[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 week ago

Cheating, every lobby has several of them and you'll play for a few minutes only to be teleported somewhere and killed, or run into a guy with god mode turned on.

[-] lemmyingly@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's not true for every public lobby. You can play online by yourself, or just your friends if you don't want to be in a public lobby. And some modders are quite funny with it.

I'm speaking from a place where I currently have ~4000 hours on the game. Only 100-200 of them is in story mode.

There is now Battleye, which has significantly reduced the number of modders, but it requires you to be comfortable with a kernel level anti cheat running on your system.

[-] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well battleeye... and Rockstar says "fck ya Linux community" + they lied about the reasons + anti cheat was more or less instant broken

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

the forever grind does it for me

[-] lemmyingly@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

The grind is a state of mind in my opinion. Are you playing the game because you enjoy it, or just so you can say you have everything and completed all aspects of the game? For me, thinking the game as a grind is only true for the latter.

I have everything in GTA online, but I've also got about ~4000 hours on it. There are only a few in game assets that add an improvement to the gameplay; everything else is meaningless.

Whenever I try to go online my wanted rating goes to 4 stars within a minute and the cops immediately kill me.

Maybe because I'm still using the ps3 version.

[-] lemmyingly@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

I've only had that once or twice.

I currently have ~4000 hours on the game. Only 100-200 of them is in story mode.

There is now Battleye, which has significantly reduced the number of modders, but it requires you to be comfortable with a kernel level anti cheat running on your system.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

I think Rockstar simply abandonned the PS3 version.

[-] Visstix@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I was mostly talking about multiplayer at launch being unplayable. I tried to play with friends but the loading times were just abysmal, and lots of crashes which caused you to go through all the loading screens again. And just annoying people on the map. This was before all the cheaters showed up. Gta online made them a shitton of money so I don't think single player is their priority.

[-] Alchalide@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

There are many reasons you can think gtao is unplayable, but in my opinion micro transactions is not one of them.

[-] btr_fan87@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I believe they meant Rockstar puts their full focus on gtao because of the revenue brought in by micro transactions. Not that gtao is unplayable because of micro transactions.

[-] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

I got banned on it using cheats as an anticheat, because it got so bad. Don't regret the ban.

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

For me it was the systematic destructor mods and cheats. Modded GTA5 was awesome, thenbthey removed the script hooks and everything got way too complicated.

[-] reversedposterior@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Too bad many of the people in my generation who grew up with GTA games stopped caring since we're all middle aged now anyway.

Also the impact of a new rockstar game today is very different from what it was in the 2000s. There's so much to play now that waiting a year isn't that big a deal when you have a giant library of Steam games.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 24 points 1 week ago

Yup. They sucked all the fun out of the series. Why can't we run over a line of nuns anymore?

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago
[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Which game can you do that in?

[-] scala@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

#patientgamers !

[-] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 week ago

Rockstar wants people to double drip. That's why, like they did with GTA5.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

And people are fucking morons for doing it

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

Idk if someone is willing and has the money to pay for two copies of RDR then sure why not.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Rewarding companies for anti consumer practices where their only goal is maximizing profit? Are you really saying "sure why not" to that?

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -1 points 1 week ago

It takes time to grow up mate but I for one don't pre order and I don't buy games with stupid "launchers"

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

And RDR2. Although GTA5 they got an extra layer with the original and next gen console releases as well as PC.

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 44 points 1 week ago

I’ll wait even longer bc I’m not giving those assholes $70.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 11 points 1 week ago

I think I will be skipping all together or go the libre route due to that nasty launcher

[-] M600@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I was just wanting to play gta 5 on steamdeck. But it has some anti cheat and stoped working on Linux.

It was just added this past week. So I literally cannot play a game that I bought.

It didn’t even occur to me to go the Libre route. I’m 100% doing that so I can play a game that I own.

[-] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

when has long-term growth and stability ever been prioritized over short-term wins in the games industry?

I dunno, maybe Valve's entire approach to Linux and devices. Maybe GOG's dedication to only selling DRM-free games. You'd think PC Gamer magazine would be well aware of these.

[-] blindsight@beehaw.org 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

True, but I expect that wasn't meant literally; it was expressed that way for rhetorical effect.

Most of the capitalist system we're in has incentivized short-term cashflow over long-term revenue for most stakeholders (annual bonuses, for example), and AAA gaming is almost entirely following those trends, too.

[-] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

It may not be the literal case but it's certainly the norm. Your two examples are outliers in the market. PC Gamer would be well aware of these if they're even slightly competent.

[-] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Those outliers probably make up over 50% of the market or more.

[-] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 week ago

Be honest, whose ass are you trying to kiss with such a nonsense statement?

[-] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago
[-] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

I see the problem now. I'm not talking about active users or market share above, I'm talking about actors in the market. The examples of Steam and GOG are only two as opposed to the plethora of publishing companies that are actively against, or at least agnostic to the initiatives mentioned above. GOG stands firm on only selling games without DRM but Steam does very little in regards to get-rich-quick games. Advancing the general support of Linux is a great move, I won't deny that, but it doesn't fix a lot of the problems we have in the gaming market, it mostly just aids people who don't want to be on Windows.

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Fuck them for using us for their financial strategy.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

I think that's just called "business"

[-] ZMonster@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] kwomp2@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

There's only one reason to clickbait that hard

[-] RQG@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

And it's the same reason as the one alluded to in the title.

[-] Tarogar@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago

Money. That's why.

People double dipping and people that buy it on pc release for full price when that is just too much to ask at that point.

I waited years and years for RdR2 to be at a reasonable price, only bought it because I had a gift card and only needed to pay what amounted to a candy bar. Still managed to get disappointed with the start of the game. In hindsight I should have gotten a refund for it because a candy bar would have been the better choice.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 1 week ago

It's not like the reason has changed since GTA 3, when this "tradition" first started.

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