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While I've certainly seen a lot of posts and cases about the other side of the coin. And not to dismiss this. I've seen plenty of stories and accounts of people who have lost family members to the cult of the "cheeto man" himself.

But my mom has gone complete bonkers since 2016 for an entirely different reason. Shes obsessed with hating Trump. From 2016-2021 it was like 99% of what she would talk about. Hell, its gotten a tiny bit better but its still like 50% on a good day of what she talks about at any given time still. During the Mueller era, she had CNN practically 24/7. So much so that one of the headlines literally burned into her TV. She would post and show anyone she talked to anti Trump memes, songs, etc. People started disconnecting from her and she just had this "Well I guess they dont like what I havr to say! They're Trumpers anyways." Pretty much lacking any self awareness into how unhinged the election made her and fully leaning into it.

This is a woman who went from not voting and not really caring for either side of the political aisle to running for and becoming a school board member. She was so insufferable in this position that she took a 4 year break because no one liked her, ran again, and resigned because no one on the board or at the school likes her.

Fortunately, I havent lived with her for the most part since COVID, aside from like 3 months when I was in between apartments due to a breakup at the time. But I do still love her and miss the old her from before Trump became president so I keep in semi touch with her.

But I had a conversation with her recently about this election that makes me question the sanity of most of these boomer libs. Despite knowing Im not voting for kamala or Trump, she keeps pushing me. Texting "your vote counts. Theres only 2 candidates" over and over. Even though I literally live halfway across the country from her in California. Shes running short of harassing me to vote for Kamala. And then out of the blue she calls me literally just to talk about this. Spews the same old zionist bullshit that "we should fund Israel, its just Bibi whos bad!" And that "Israel-Palestine is just ONE issue anyways". And so on the usual crap about J6 and shit.

I said something like "kamala and trump are both evil, Trump is just honest about it".

And she literally goes off "YOU THINK TRUMP IS HONEST! YOU MUST BE DRINKING THE KOOL AID SON! DONALD TRUMP IS ANYTHING BUT HONEST."

Basically calling me a Trumper for the mere suggestion of Trump being honest about something. Much less, honest about him being evil. Before hanging up and saying I have nothing better to do. Despite her bothering me about the subject, her calling me to argue, and her lack of being able to talk about much of anything else.

Does anyone else have any stories of crazy lib relatives post 2016? I feel like I cant be the only one.

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[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 50 points 2 weeks ago

I've often found the quickest way is just to be honest about being a Communist. Start with open support for China against the USA and scale up to full DPRK support if they don't shut up.

For instance.

"Don't you see that Trump hates America"

"I am a proletarian internationalist and want the US to collapse and be occupied, he can't possibly hate it more than me"

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago

Shut my folks up pretty quick.

[-] Doubledee@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago

In my experience people in real life don't process this information. You can be super explicit and they'll just forget you said that, they can't internalize that you're more not a lib or a republican. I've had Q- brained people pivot to defending Brandon because I'm "being unfair to him" and then just forget that happened.

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

Sometimes yeah, but in my experience eventually if you escalate to their level of edgelordism and stay consistent they lose the ability to respond. You've just gotta get out of their context window and stay there no matter what.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 48 points 2 weeks ago

the level of cognition she seems to be on is hearing the word "honest" and going "EMOTIONAL RESPONSE TO WORD: GOOD. THIS WORD INDICATES GOOD." like she's not even processing what it means in terms of openness or directness at all, she thinks you used a 'positive' word and her knee jerk reaction kicks in immediately

[-] Vernon_Tennessee@hexbear.net 40 points 2 weeks ago

I feel like baby boomers just cant process things that might challenge or conflict with their worldview. Which is usually morally black and white and reflective of 80s sitcoms where theres some stupid lesson at the end.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

"are you suggesting I could have been wrong my entire life and wasted my time on earth being a shithead?"

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 45 points 2 weeks ago

I haven't heard or thought of the name Mueller in years.

[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Vernon_Tennessee@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

Oh god. I really hope he loses. I dont want to relive these cringey moments.

[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

I hope he wins so that Dems release the pee tape obama-socialism

[-] Weedian@hexbear.net 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My dad was sooo convinced Trump was going to prison and I said he had a better chance at being the president again than going to prison.

Whenever he starts talking about him I ask if he's going to prison yet lol

He also says everything Trump says is a lie but also will tell me about whatever evil thing Trump plans on doing if reelected and I say I thought everything he said is a lie?

[-] Vernon_Tennessee@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He also says everything Trump says is a lie but also will tell me about whatever evil thing Trump plans on doing if reelected and I say I thought everything he said is a lie

This has to be some sort of boomer thing. They must think that if someone is bad, that theyre a liar and that if someone lies theyre automatically bad.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

It is so infuriating needing to explain to people that Republicans can opportunistically tell the truth. They aren't just magical beings bound to only speak in lies like one of the twins from that riddle.

[-] Vernon_Tennessee@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

I think it makes sense when you realize that boomers LOVE TV. And most boomer shows are simple narratives with "good guys" and "bad guys". Cop shows, court dramas, fake judge shows, soap operas, MSNBC, etc.

As much as they shit on "kids these days". ALOT of boomers were the original ipad kids. Raised by TV due to neglectful parents.

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[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

maybe-later-kiddo If you just ignore all the stuff around the world....

honk-enraged Our bullshit else where is why we don't have good things here!

[-] Vernon_Tennessee@hexbear.net 40 points 2 weeks ago

I asked her why we can fund documented genocide when we cant even provide our own people with healthcare. She just told me that was a "soundbite" and otherwise didnt process what I said.

[-] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 32 points 2 weeks ago

She just told me that was a "soundbite" and otherwise didnt process what I said.

24 hour liberal news media is domestic psychological warfare. turns people into redditors

[-] Vernon_Tennessee@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

"What about Jan 6?"

Uhh what about it? A couple trumpers and some cops died. Who cares. We're literally funding the deaths of thousands of palestinians. J6 was nothing more than a slight temporary inconvenience.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago

Who's soundbite? When was this broadcast? Literally who other than us is saying this?

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[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 weeks ago

They all call me childish for wanting a better world

[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 26 points 2 weeks ago

yeah my dad is going down the same path. not to the same extent but he was a republican before trump whos now voting for kamala bc trump isnt respectable and he just never gets tired of making fun of trump. which yeah to be fair trump is a dipshit whos easy to make fun of but it still gets annoying to listen to

Death to America

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[-] hypercracker@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

That fucking sucks. I have a friend who got sucked into the anti-trans youtube/substack rabbithole but nothing so all-consuming as your situation.

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[-] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

I feel like Boomers in general are just getting more unhinged.

My parents don’t have Trump derangement in either direction, they are barely political, but the politics they do have and express seems to have gotten more and more reactionary over the last decade or so.

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

i thought my mom was a lib, but if she was like yours, i would honestly consider going no-contact. the constant hectoring after you've made your position clear must be insufferable.

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[-] ShareThatBread@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

Spews the same old zionist bullshit that "we should fund Israel, it’s just Bibi whos bad!" And that "Israel-Palestine is just ONE issue anyways".

One you can query the libs with:

If it’s just one issue for some people, but one of many for others, maybe see how many voters you’d get and lose for changing on that one single issue. They can’t really give an answer to it. Be relentless on getting one.

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

My boomer parents aren't registered to vote because they think they can dodge jury duty if you aren't registered to vote.

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[-] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago

pay someone to steal her television and internet router

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Only one of them is. Brings him up all the god damn time and coddles the Democrats as if they’re people who care for the working class and only want what’s best. This same person is also very nationalistic and has an obsessive fear of anything Chinese.

I think Trump winning again will completely break their brain. So far they’re able to be quiet about it around their friends, but that won’t last long if he wins again.

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[-] OptimusSubprime@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

OP, you should have blocked her a long time ago...

It was only going to get worse.

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, disown your mother because she hates trump too much

[-] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago

disown your mother to own the libs

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[-] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

nah that's your family dummy. you only get one.

[-] OptimusSubprime@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

And yet she continues with her Trump derangement syndrome, pushing away OP.

I've seen it firsthand with my own mother. And I've had to let her go, no matter what I say to get her right thinking again, because she won't listen. She is stuck in her hatred of Trump.

So no, no "dummy" here. Just someone who decided to move on and get on with their life.

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