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submitted 1 year ago by willybe@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

The central feature of Poilievre's plan is a policy that ties federal funding to housing starts.

Which creates more bureaucracy on to of an already bureaucratic system. Genius

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[-] willybe@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 year ago

The central feature of Poilievre's plan is a policy that ties federal funding to housing starts.

Which creates more bureaucracy on to of an already bureaucratic system. Genius

Forcing cities to levels of growth whether they have infrastructure or not. If they don't have the ability to meet that number they will be penalized seeing cities further back causing more problems.

As if we don't already have enough problems.

[-] Numpty@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

You and I see through the fluff... and we are in the minority. PP is just saying whatever people want to hear. No facts, no proof, just fluff that riles up the voters.

[-] Prezhotnuts@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

build homes, not bureaucracy

What the fuck does that even mean?

[-] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Absolutely nothing. It’s politic speak - fluff.

[-] m0darn@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 year ago

It means tweak existing programs to incentivizes others to build homes, don't make an organization that tries to build homes.

I can't imagine myself voting conservative, but he's not wrong to suggest the federal government should be pressuring municipalities to get housing built.

But we don't need housing starts, we need housing completions. The proposal incentivizes cities to approve projects now but doesn't stop them from tying them up in red tape later.

It puts the largest burden of building housing on cities that have already been building instead of on cities with untapped potential. I suspect cities like West Vancouver will just walk away from the money.

Unless the success bonus is a bigger carrot than the penalty is a stick, it creates an incentive not to exceed 15% growth because it will make it harder to meet quota the next year. Cities will make quota then tie up new starts until the new year.

My feeling is that cities with high housing costs (especially wrt local income) should face more pressure to build. Cities with low densities should face more pressure to build.

[-] willybe@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Or on this case add a policy to penalize those who don't measure up to your imaginary stick.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

the federal government should be pressuring municipalities to get housing built.

That's not their job. The fed doesn't pressure munis. The Fed doles out money TO PROVINCES as per an agreement.

But we don’t need housing starts, we need housing completions.

True. And density. Because sprawling out these matchstick shitbox firetrap hasty-built bungalows and eating farmland and greenspace wasn't the answer 20 years ago; less now.

[-] Skies5394@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

What the eff is that picture?

Is it normal for politicians to have mock gatherings to announce things as we see here with the curtain pulled back?

[-] willybe@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thank-you for bringing that up. I laughed when I saw it. I'm surprised he isn't wearing a harness, hi vis, and a hard hat.

If you watch the video, you can see the platform in the executive parking lot lifts him up to use the Shaw workyard as a background. This way he doesn't have to get his shoes dirty.

What a putz

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre released Thursday a housing plan he said would fast-track the construction of new homes in Canada as the country grapples with an acute shortage of affordable places to live.

Poilievre said that after eight years in government, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the Liberals have failed to stimulate the construction of enough homes to meet demand — a situation that has made young people increasingly disillusioned about their financial futures.

Under the Liberal plan — which is designed to reward cities that build more homes faster by clearing roadblocks to construction — local governments must apply for funding; they don't get money automatically.

Trudeau said he's hoping the provinces will follow suit by dropping the PST in their jurisdictions — a tax break that could encourage builders to prioritize building new apartments over condos.

With Poilievre riding high in the polls after spending the summer focusing on affordability issues, the Liberal government is trying to roll out a plan of its own to respond to voters' cost-of-living anxiety.

"Let's not pretend we're playing behind the Conservatives who are finally starting to talk about the things we've been campaigning on actively for the last two election cycles," Fraser said at the cabinet's recent retreat in Charlottetown.


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