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[-] MaxPower@feddit.de 83 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wish the world was as enthusiastic about saving hundreds of women and children as it is about saving 5 fucking millionaires or billionaires.

[-] FurtiveFugitive@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

While I agree with the sentiment, doesn't your own article state that immediately after the incident, multiple countries launched a group search and rescue mission which saved a lot of the victims?

The story about the millionaires, at least to me, is less about the fact that they're millionaires, and more about the fact that we have tourist visits to the remains of the Titanic. At this point I don't know who was on that tiny submersible but I'm intrigued with the tech and what could have gone wrong.

[-] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree with you, its infuriating that a news story about a bunch of billionaires lost in a homebrew sub is stealing the thunder of a lot of more important, much more tragic news.

But its a less complicated story for people to latch on to, it doesnt challenge people to do something about it... thats a big reason why its overshadowing these other stories. (Also theres maybe a bit of public Schadenfreude. I mean at a time when most people cant afford food or rent, I can see how a story about the super rich enaging in something so expensive, and dangerous might capture peoples attention.

But its also just a very compelling event. Though it focusses on the super rich... i dont know, people are just fascinated by disasters and deep sea exploration (myself included) and Ive never seen a story like this unfold in real time. So I think its worth following and discussing, but I agree that it shouldnt be totally dominating the news like this.

[-] anon@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

the ugly truth is that immigrants drowning isn't news, it's just normal business, that's why they are trying to save the millionaires, and also why firemen send a chopper to rescue a cow stuck in ice while there are others getting chopped up a couple of miles away.

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[-] gaytswiftfan@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

you can have interest in both. the news can't constantly keep people's focus on things that happen every day, people stop caring. also your own article states there was action taken.

I guess I kinda understand your frustration but if you choose to look at everything from that angle you might as well not participate in the news, it will burn you out

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[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

There's nothing to rescue except a waterlogged carbon fiber tube filled with gore.

[-] Fauxreigner@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are reports that acoustic systems picked up banging noises at 30 minute intervals. Until I heard that, I was convinced it had imploded. Now I'm not so sure, and it'll only be worse if they aren't rescued. Implosion would at least have been fast.

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[-] Bipta@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

It sure sounds like they're likely alive based on the reported banging. Sadly rescue before oxygen runs out seems impossible.

[-] aegisgfx877@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

They were alive, which is very very sad, but if they lost power (seems likely) then without heaters they would have froze to death a couple days ago.

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[-] SeeJayEmm@lemmy.one 20 points 1 year ago

Yeah the sad part is that, really, the best we can hope for is a post mortem. Rescue is almost impossible in this situation.

[-] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

Why do we care? We know what happened - this thing was built like shit. How come taxpayers have to foot some bill to tow these dead rich fucks?

[-] Steve@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

People are still people, man. If they have the money maybe they should pay back the rescue efforts if found alive (which won’t happen), but it kinda sucks to say “welp bye” and let half a dozen people slowly die if you could’ve helped.

[-] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

On the other hand if it's 500 poor people fuck'em

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[-] orbit@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago
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[-] GadgeteerZA@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

Yes seems no practical craft is actually able to reach them to recover their sub from that depth. There was no wire to pull them back up. The sub can't be opened from the inside, even if it had surfaced somewhere. There'll need to be a serious rethink about the safety design.

[-] Bowen@beehaw.org 41 points 1 year ago

There’ll need to be a serious rethink about the safety design.

The owner is on record saying he thinks safety regulations are bogus an he's actively looked to cutting corners because you can't live in safety our whole life.

This whole thing was a stupid mess. I can't even really muster any sympathy for this situation because everyone made boneheaded decisions every step of the process. Including controlling thrust and control surfaces with a wireless PC controller because you're too much of a spedthrift to spend 10k on some deep sea cable glands and build an actual fly by wire system for your 1.25 million dollar trips to the bottom of the oceans.

[-] kryostar@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wait whaaaaaaat? They seriously used wireless PC controller for thrust and control surfaces?

Oh my god. If that's true that might be the most brain dead thing I've ever read today. Can you please give me a source, I have to know more about this now. :0

Edit: holy shit. I'm watching SomeOrdinaryGamers' video.

[-] MrMonkey@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

I can't speak to the sub, but many Navy ships were retrofitted with systems to be controlled by XBox 360 controllers. Turns out training new people on the controller had huge improvements over the old systems.

EOD also has robots controlled by a "game controller". So do many drones.

This isn't a "crazy" thing to do. (except if it's wireless. Keep that cable)

https://thegamingwatcher.com/pages/articles/best-xbox/2023/6/21/gamepads-military-xbox-controllers-gaming

[-] Barbarian772@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

You're right if it would have been an xbox controller, it wouldn't have been crazy.

It was actually a basically ancient Logitech Controller, which had connection problems even when you use it inside your home in front of your pc.

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[-] skele_tron@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

Which safety design?

Imagine if aero transport industry was allowed to cut corners like this and still offer services to passengers.

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[-] WeaponizedPoultry@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

When asked whether his submersible could be used to rescue those on the Titan before they run out of breathable air, Newell looked up from his crowbar and said only "These things, they take time."

[-] DanNZN@thelemmy.club 10 points 1 year ago

You do not need a manned sub though most likely. Plenty of ROVs can go that deep and latch onto it. This is how they recover other things that end up on the ocean floor including other ROVs that got stuck researching the titanic.

[-] DannyBoy@mastodon.ie 8 points 1 year ago

@king_dead This reads as a South Park episode.
IDK what's real or not anymore!!!

[-] Gsus4@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He's going to make a big announcement...but given his history, it may actually have to do with some artifacts he wants to find down there :)

[-] werewolf_nr@fig.systems 7 points 1 year ago

So, what you're saying is that a Steam Controller is a better choice of diving equipment than the Logitech PlayStation knock off?

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[-] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago
[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 17 points 1 year ago

No... Take note of the title, "that could reach". Not "that could save". There's no rescue. The only thing people could get is proper closure from this.

[-] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

Maybe they’ll become mermaids

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 7 points 1 year ago

Fair enough.

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[-] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago

Someone please photoshop the CD on the floor into the Titan sub

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