Upon being criticised for their support of the Charlie Hebdo terrorist attacks, tankies unsurprisingly double down (sh.itjust.works)

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[-] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 weeks ago

throwing a pipe bomb into an art contest

incredibly good and based

This is what happens when you become consumed by hatred. The most insane statements seem entirely reasonable to them, because they are blinded by fear and hate.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 weeks ago

Their love towards Islamic extremism is so strange.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

"Leftism" is when a economically right wing authoritarian state opposes America.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

@archomrade@midwest.social I don't think your post worked out too well 🐔

also I want to point out the amazing differences between these communities. See, you're very much, unapologetically, a tankie, but you're fully allowed to comment and even engage in this community despite your farming and attempted framing that this community is extremist.

Now, if we were to do the same, we'd be defederated. Which we were!

Perhaps you should use the liberty this community has to actually ask for our opinions as opposed to fishing for responses. You'll find we're a very diverse community with many different opinions, some are even communists.

[+] archomrade@midwest.social -25 points 3 weeks ago

I wouldn't be fishing here if I wasn't getting bites, and I wouldn't have thought to dip my hook in the water if I hadn't seen abundant signs of good fishing.

You are free to create a Hexbear account and contribute however you like. I promise they will answer any questions you have civilly, so long as you don't provoke them. But they've not committed to civility like you've done here, so be careful not to let you mask slip.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 weeks ago

You are free to create a Hexbear account and contribute however you like. I promise they will answer any questions you have civilly, so long as you don’t provoke them. But they’ve not committed to civility like you’ve done here, so be careful not to let you mask slip.

I have, and I was, and no, I got perma'd. Four different users also attempted to dox me. I know since I was in their private chatrooms during the time. Seeing them get frustrated when they couldn't do it was very entertaining. They even tried image meta-data, the poor things

And my mask? I don't have a mask. I'm very honest with my views and am willing to share them with anyone who wishes to know.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Can people with views that differ my own have come to those views in an honest and reasoned fashion, even if I think they’re flawed?

Nah, they’re definitely just bad faith fascists hiding their “power level”.

Scary easy to see how easy you end up with thought police when people that think like this hold power.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 weeks ago

Extremists tend to think everyone else is as extreme as they are. It's quite sad

[+] archomrade@midwest.social -24 points 3 weeks ago

I have, and I was, and no, I got perma’d.

Welp, i guess there we have it. I've so far managed to avoid provoking them myself, cross my fingers I don't get on their bad side.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 weeks ago

why would you? you agree with them lol. try to say that stalin was a disaster for communism and his dictatorship killed it, then you'll be in trouble

i do like how you ignored mentioning the dox attempts

[+] archomrade@midwest.social -17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

i do like how you ignored mentioning the dox attempts

I have no way of knowing if that's accurate, nor to i have any way of knowing what it was that got you perma'd.

try to say that stalin was a disaster for communism and his dictatorship killed it, then you’ll be in trouble

I probably wouldn't say that, because the US defeated communism (according to their own accounting). I would tread lightly around anything I may not agree with them on, but I do happen to agree with them on a lot. At least most of them. Half of them. Maybe slightly less than a majority of them.

What can I say, they aren't a monolith.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 weeks ago

You can say that Stalin was bad, right?

What can I say, they aren’t a monolith.

But their hatred towards diversity and dissent is

[-] archomrade@midwest.social -5 points 3 weeks ago

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[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Bad on what grounds? His Soviet project certainly didn’t last, I think that failure is bad. He had quite a few deaths under his leadership, that was pretty bad, too. But it’d be crazy to discuss Stalin’s failures without acknowledging the post war reality: a depleted and war-torn Russia, former allies (who just dropped two atomic bombs on Japan to make a point) immediately resuming hostilities and sanctions against his fledgling national project, and the isolation that comes with being that cold-war black sheep that nobody wants to play with. From that perspective it’s suddenly not surprising that his project failed, even if you think he committed huge atrocities on the way down.

If you disagree with Stalin, you'd better be quick to acknowledge the systemic conditions that contributed to his failure before you get to blaming him for the holomodor lmao. Fair game if you think his leadership decisions were huge mistakes or weren't justified, though they'll probably disagree.

damn that didn't take long at all, what is it with you guys and your inability to disavow stalin's atrocities? poor, poor Stalin's USSR was forced to do genocide, they had to kill all those people :(

Lenin is screaming at you

Since you've been banned for this very topic before, this one will last 48 hours. You may request to be unbanned and your comments restored at any time. Something that Hexbear will not give you

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 8 points 3 weeks ago

You're way too lenient with someone who self admitted to be here to troll.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

I am very lenient with them, yeah. It's good to have people with dissenting opinions, even though they're acting in bad faith and have admitted to just fishing for replies. Diversity is key, afterall. Of course, it'll be different if they were insulting every user here and generally being a bad sport.

However, the line is drawn at apologia.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

Did you inherit a thousand years of piss-poor takes or are you just great at making shitty opinions?

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 19 points 3 weeks ago

I promise they will answer any questions you have civilly, so long as you don't provoke them.

You actually believe this?

[+] archomrade@midwest.social -8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Maybe? ~~You should go and try provoking them, see if they still treat you with civility.~~

edit: goat is right, I was using sarcasm and did not indicate that clearly. I do not support going there to cause trouble, but you are absolutely allowed to go there and behave.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

No brigading. Brigading is a headache for both admins

this community is an exception, although a rickety one

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 14 points 3 weeks ago

I've seen how they behave on other instances, no way will they be polite and courteous when someone disagrees with them on home turf.

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com 17 points 3 weeks ago

Apparently drawing Mohammad is worse than a fucking pipe bomb. Thank God I have the self awareness to browse communities outside of my echo chamber. I wish they did too

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago

"What does this have to do with communism anymore?"

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

That is psychotic. They recognize it is wrong, too. They would be screeching in apoplectic rage if a radical opposed to their speech were talking about pipe bombing some sort of IRL Hexbear meme reposting event.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

They only say it because they're edgy. They are actually very, very passive, i mean they have to put trigger warnings for adult content--If they can't handle seeing violence, they aren't going to do any of it

[-] IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

not to shit on content warnings because I appreciate that different people have different things that can be very upsetting to them, but hexbear literally requires warnings on photos of ice cream. or cooked food that could possibly include an animal product even if you can't directly see it or tell the difference. I'm not joking or exaggerating, this caused quite a stir when the admins implemented that policy.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

that's hilarious.

how do they expect to be guerillas or handle any revolution? also don't tell them about animal rights in china lmao

[-] IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

this type of shit is part of what drove me away from hexbear (yeah I know it's embarrassing). many of them have the opinion that being a dick is worthy of corporal or capital punishment. is it dickish to intentionally trash on another culture's beliefs? probably yeah. but does it justify murder? fucking of course not!

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

you're not alone. There's quite a few users in this community who are former-hexbear and lemmygrad

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago

"Turnabouts fair play" eh? You heard him folks, time to bomb people who take the lord's name in vain inshallah.

[-] rocket_man@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

This is disgusting! How is it legal for them to host this content?

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Free speech and all.

you can try reporting them to authorities if you want

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