Upon being criticised for their support of the Charlie Hebdo terrorist attacks, tankies unsurprisingly double down (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 month ago by goat@sh.itjust.works to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

34 comments fedilink hide all child comments

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago

You are free to create a Hexbear account and contribute however you like. I promise they will answer any questions you have civilly, so long as you don’t provoke them. But they’ve not committed to civility like you’ve done here, so be careful not to let you mask slip.

I have, and I was, and no, I got perma'd. Four different users also attempted to dox me. I know since I was in their private chatrooms during the time. Seeing them get frustrated when they couldn't do it was very entertaining. They even tried image meta-data, the poor things

And my mask? I don't have a mask. I'm very honest with my views and am willing to share them with anyone who wishes to know.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Can people with views that differ my own have come to those views in an honest and reasoned fashion, even if I think they’re flawed?

Nah, they’re definitely just bad faith fascists hiding their “power level”.

Scary easy to see how easy you end up with thought police when people that think like this hold power.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

Extremists tend to think everyone else is as extreme as they are. It's quite sad

[+] archomrade@midwest.social -24 points 1 month ago

I have, and I was, and no, I got perma’d.

Welp, i guess there we have it. I've so far managed to avoid provoking them myself, cross my fingers I don't get on their bad side.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago

why would you? you agree with them lol. try to say that stalin was a disaster for communism and his dictatorship killed it, then you'll be in trouble

i do like how you ignored mentioning the dox attempts

[+] archomrade@midwest.social -17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

i do like how you ignored mentioning the dox attempts

I have no way of knowing if that's accurate, nor to i have any way of knowing what it was that got you perma'd.

try to say that stalin was a disaster for communism and his dictatorship killed it, then you’ll be in trouble

I probably wouldn't say that, because the US defeated communism (according to their own accounting). I would tread lightly around anything I may not agree with them on, but I do happen to agree with them on a lot. At least most of them. Half of them. Maybe slightly less than a majority of them.

What can I say, they aren't a monolith.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

You can say that Stalin was bad, right?

What can I say, they aren’t a monolith.

But their hatred towards diversity and dissent is

[-] archomrade@midwest.social -5 points 1 month ago

[removed by mod]

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Bad on what grounds? His Soviet project certainly didn’t last, I think that failure is bad. He had quite a few deaths under his leadership, that was pretty bad, too. But it’d be crazy to discuss Stalin’s failures without acknowledging the post war reality: a depleted and war-torn Russia, former allies (who just dropped two atomic bombs on Japan to make a point) immediately resuming hostilities and sanctions against his fledgling national project, and the isolation that comes with being that cold-war black sheep that nobody wants to play with. From that perspective it’s suddenly not surprising that his project failed, even if you think he committed huge atrocities on the way down.

If you disagree with Stalin, you'd better be quick to acknowledge the systemic conditions that contributed to his failure before you get to blaming him for the holomodor lmao. Fair game if you think his leadership decisions were huge mistakes or weren't justified, though they'll probably disagree.

damn that didn't take long at all, what is it with you guys and your inability to disavow stalin's atrocities? poor, poor Stalin's USSR was forced to do genocide, they had to kill all those people :(

Lenin is screaming at you

Since you've been banned for this very topic before, this one will last 48 hours. You may request to be unbanned and your comments restored at any time. Something that Hexbear will not give you

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 8 points 1 month ago

You're way too lenient with someone who self admitted to be here to troll.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

I am very lenient with them, yeah. It's good to have people with dissenting opinions, even though they're acting in bad faith and have admitted to just fishing for replies. Diversity is key, afterall. Of course, it'll be different if they were insulting every user here and generally being a bad sport.

However, the line is drawn at apologia.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 9 points 1 month ago

Did you inherit a thousand years of piss-poor takes or are you just great at making shitty opinions?

this post was submitted on 21 Oct 2024

50 points (94.6% liked)

MeanwhileOnGrad

1359 readers

141 users here now

"Oh, this is calamity! Calamity! Oh no, he's on the floor!"

Welcome to MoG!

Meanwhile On Grad

Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!

What is a Tankie?

Alternatively, a detailed blog post about Tankies.

(caution of biased source)

Basic Rules:

Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.

Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.

Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.

Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.

Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.

Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post as opposed to arguing.

You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.

founded 1 year ago

MODERATORS

goat@sh.itjust.works

PugJesus@lemmy.world