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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 25 points 13 hours ago

I can get a two dollar raise...

Well it's better than the FUCKING CONCENTRATION CAMP I'd get from the other guy

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 6 hours ago

Yeah except the concentration camps come with free room and board.*

*Charges for the room and board will be deducted from your earnings as a slave.

[-] Gimpydude@lemmynsfw.com 38 points 23 hours ago

$15/hr works out to be about 30k/yr. That's not enough to live on. We need a $30 minimum wage. It needs to be indexed to both inflation as well as congressional salary. If they get a raise, everyone gets a raise.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 hours ago

Canadian but same problem here. Long term we need UBI worldwide if we plan on ever moving forward as a species.

Short term we need benefits for those less fortunate keyed to inflation at a bare minimum. In Ontario people with disabilities are paid below the poverty line. It's disgusting.

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 17 points 17 hours ago

Yeah that fight for 15 was in 2016. We are way past that fight needs to be fucking 25 to 30. But watch every single fucking Republican will vote against any increases of minimum wage. 7.25 is a fucking joke and law makers should be fucking ashame of themselves.

Actually any of them vote no on a raise should have all their money seized and made to live on minimum wage for 5 years.

[-] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

Law makers should be making 7.25 an hour, and only when they are on the floor.

[-] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago

Why not pay everyone fairly instead of incentivizing further corruption through bribery? I'm definitely not going to dispute that they should be paid for the quality and quantity of results generated in terms of legislation...

IMO government work should be volunteer, but you get your clothes, food, and living expenses paid for our of a set budget. You take no salary and accept no bribes, you live in "Government City". Essentially your finances go null entropy while in office. You do a good job? Public likes you? Private sector likes you? You're top of the list for top paying jobs when you step down.

But only AFTER you do the good work we need leaders to do for us.

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

All of the Representative jobs used to be part time. ie People had real jobs that earned their living, and they also did their government work on top of that. And that was when travel took forever.

In other words, one of the primary reasons we are at this point today, is because far too many politicians realized they could simply bilk the State, while doing fuckall for careers spanning 30-40-50 YEARS.

If we take President Biden as an example, the man was elected to the US Senate in 1972! And there are many such examples.

And what's been the outcome? A better democratic process? No. Higher quality of life for citizens? No. More competitive American goods in the Intl marketplace? No.

So what are we getting for our dollars? And why would we want these fossils (regardless of Party) to remain? They're clearly not serving American interests.

[-] Wiz@midwest.social 17 points 23 hours ago

Good!

Now also link it to yearly inflation annually in December!

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 49 minutes ago)

The number needs to be set to a good value, but this is the most frustrating aspect of this whole song and dance, because there shouldn't even be a question about whether it should track inflation. Just setting another flat value so we can watch it atrophy away is maddening. The whole concept is directly related to the cost of goods, and the people needing this wage are the most impacted by price changes. And since it's supposed to be a floor, you know minimum wage employers aren't going to voluntarily raise wages to track inflation. They'd be paying even less if they were allowed.

Even if the businesses-first majority of politicians try to low-ball the target, there's no legitimate argument for not making it auto-update. Businesses just like to reap the extra exploitation between updates.

[-] match@pawb.social 34 points 1 day ago

fight for 15 years late

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Name a more iconic duo than politicians and making promises that rely on the cooperation of other branches of government.

[-] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Not voting in enough Democrats into Congress to do anything and saying the Democrats didn’t actually want to do anything

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 22 hours ago

Politicians being bought and sold to the highest bidder of the campaign trail.

If the house and Senate approve. She can't just do it on her own

[-] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

YES SHE CAN!!

She can do all the things!! More money for me, legal weed, ~~more money for genocide~~(wait, she can do that and will.....let's not talk about that one), eat the rich, free abortions, free healthcare!!!!

She can do it all!! Definitely not items that Congress has to pass! Harris will do it all by her powerful self!!

[-] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 70 points 1 day ago

Wait, doubling it -to- 15 dollars an hour? Holy shit, I knew it was bad, but that is insane. Ours is already starting to feel too low at 17.40 here in Canada, granted that is about the equivalent of around $12.50 USD. So it's lower than what she is proposing, maybe if she manages it, we'll be able to get ours up.

[-] Naryn@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

It'd only put the US at 5th in the world for minimum wage, which considering the cost of living in the US vs most other countries.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 7 hours ago

TBF developed countries like Switzerland don't have a minimum wage law, but have near universal union representation.

[-] Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 day ago

Yeah, the states have been moving towards 15, but the national minimum wage has been stuck for a few decades. And also yes, 15 is already way too low.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 13 hours ago

Even the McDonalds around here know that even the most desperate laugh at 7.25 an hour

The last place I worked upped their minimum wage to $10 an hour. It certainly wasn't because of benevolence or federal shifts...they slowly realized that when you pay the absolute minimum, you only attract the minimum talent, and most of those positions had very high turnover rates that were costing the company more than it'd be to just raise the starting pay rates.

It was cheaper to pay those positions more money.

Unfortunately in my state where the minimum wage is higher than the federal, many service industry companies refuse to learn that lesson. Or they think 16 cents above minimum wage is enough to attract top tier talent.

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[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 11 points 1 day ago

This was literally her supposed signature issue when she was running with Biden.

She didn’t fight for it at all.

[-] abracaDavid@lemmy.today 6 points 22 hours ago

Whaaaaat??

A politician making a bunch of claims right before an election and then never following through on them?

Say it ain't so! Not in my America!

Yeah it's lying season. Both sides are telling us what they think we want to hear.

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 3 points 20 hours ago

This election does seem a little weird. Kamala feels like more of the same but Tim walz is right, Trump and his supporters are really kind of weird and creepy.

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 89 points 1 day ago

And note that her wording was "at least $15", so she's signaling openness to doing more than that

[-] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

Wow, so you are building up accounts to sell huh?

I saw this EXACT comment on a different post just yesterday from another username.

These account farmers are LAZY!

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Are you sure? Becasuse that was probably me on this same account. On a different post on the exact same topic, I made a comment clarifying the same thing

Edit: searching for "at least $15" across lemmy on my instance only has my own comments come up

[-] grue@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago

Good, because "fight for $15" has been going on so long that the real number to regain parity with what minimum wage used to be is a lot higher than that by now.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

it's $22 now

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[-] Talisker@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I believe all promises that are made within the last 30 days of an election!

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