cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/3752956
Fascism is here.
https://www.axios.com/2024/10/22/trump-mass-deportation-immigrant-camps
I don't miss when the quiet part was kept quiet. Now we know without any shadow of a doubt who is a bastard, fascist, traitor. We should keep our eyes very open, and be attentive to everything they say and do (or try to do). Record everything down, and keep that information safe, might be useful I'm the future.
Years ago, well before Trump was a name we heard multiple times every fucking day, George Takei came and spoke at a thing I attended. He told the story of his family being rounded up during WWII because they were Japanese.
He was only 4 or 5 or so, but he still remembers the moment when they came to his house and took him and his family away to one of those camps.
It was an incredibly moving story and he told it with such emotion that it was as if it had happened to him the year before. People in the audience were tearing up. I’ll never forget it.
This is not okay.
Takei talked about it earlier this year on Jesse Tyler Ferguson's podcast as well
https://player.fm/series/dinners-on-me-with-jesse-tyler-ferguson/george-takei
Oh thanks! I’ll definitely listen on the way to work tomorrow!
I will be paying attention to similar claims but i wouldnt be surprised if the survey results arent representing the population well. Anyone know what verification is collected for an online poll like this? Or is it email based and easier to manipulate? Their methodology pasted below for those curious.
"Methodology: The American Values Survey was conducted online Aug. 16-Oct. 4. The poll is based on a representative sample of 5,027 adults (age 18 and older) living in all 50 states and the District of Columbia who are part of Ipsos' Knowledge Panel®.
The margin of sampling error is +/- 1.82 percentage points at the 95% confidence level, for results based on the entire sample."That's right, folks. The election is winnable, but only if you can capture the critical immigrant concentration camp swing vote.
what
The
Fuck
Now do the one on welfare recipients. Plenty of Republicans can be trapped into admitting they think anyone on welfare for too long should be in a work camp.
Trapped?
They'll say we need to do more to get them to work harder. Like make them apply for extra jobs. When you ask what if that doesn't work you eventually get to work camps.
They don't see people on welfare as people.
They don't see anyone they perceive as "lesser" than them as people; and they think they're better than a whole lotta people.
And they don't see the problem with that. Which is why they'll say the quiet part out loud with so little effort.
Republican screaming from the rooftops for the last twenty years have simply been bamboozled.
As long as we are putting people in “militarized camps” can we do that with Republican voters instead of immigrants? I reckon it would have way better effects in society.
Florida: "Insurance costs are skyrocketing!"
Also:
" Let's cut the labor pool of the people who fix and replace the roofs at a lower cost."
Hmmm.. I wonder what's going to happen to roof costs and thus house insurance costs
No wonder Trump killed the bipartisan immigration reform bill. I didn't realize the anti-immigrant sentiment had gotten to this level in so much of the population. It's frankly horrifying.
You would be surprised how many legal immigrants hate other immigrants. They've been targeted pretty heavily by the propaganda that illegals are getting all kinds of free money and etc
I'd love to know more about how that poll was conducted. 22% of democrats? 47% of independents? I'm skeptical that those are really reflective of how prevalent those attitudes are.
Do y'all talk to people day-to-day?
I hear a lot of anti immigrant rhetoric from my immigrant aunts and my more "trashy" or low-class friends (all kids of immigrants)
I've been saying this for more than a decade now, before bots became such a huge thing (I think), if YouTube comments are any reflection of the average person/American, we're so beyond fucked. I absolutely do not practice cynicism
Yep. I think there's a huge amount of left leaning online people in denial.
They keep thinking that they just need to tell people about all these issues and then obviously those people will see it as wrong. Nope, a huge number of their fellow citizens are absolutely aware of this shit and actively approve of it.
Bringing 'awareness' is pointless if the people actually approve of this horrible stuff.
To be clear, I don't think most of these folks fully understand the consequences of supporting fascist politicians. My imm. aunt startled me a bit yesterday when said something like democracy means gay people everywhere. I said that's not true and "reminded" her democracy is a system of gov where citizens can vote, one where women weren't previously able to participate in, nor black citizens.
Still, where does that leave us? No fuckin joke, we basically need to stop trying to use facts to reach certain folks. My understanding is that means we need to use emotions/emotional intelligence. How do we do that? Not sure. Many of us had to numb the fuck out to survive what we call American culture, so we're really just barely learning
How do we now make Americans that kinda hate our guts, because of tons of propaganda, that we care about them and want to work with them to improve our nation? Most libs kinda do come off like they hate them, tbf
Idk if that made sense. Kinda stuck rn
Agreed on the emotional intelligence approach. I'm tired of democrats thinking logic and facts will just sway everyone and then being all high and mighty when that doesn't work on some people.
The whole thing with Trump being weird was an excellent attempt at actually messaging in a way that resonates with people. There's a reason ads for stuff like cars and medicine focus more on happy experiences and not on what the product actually is.
We need to be building a brand identity, shaping how people feel about us and focusing less on the raw facts and logic. It doesn't work on seemingly most Americans, continuing to use it despite the lack of results really makes me question whether we really are controlled opposition.
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